eagle windshield area corrosion

Dreamscape · March 15, 2009, 08:27:38 AM

If the leaks are gone, either a bad gauge, or the govenor needs to be adjusted. Time sitting can do strange things, hope you find the problem.

~Paul~

rdbishop · March 15, 2009, 05:24:34 PM

Boy, what a day,

First thing , the bus is in New Braunfels Texas about 20 miles N. of San Antonio. Come on by Dallas and give us a hand. Today was a bad day. Couldn't find a place behind the bumper to air up the bus so I'm going to get some fittings and make a place on the air tank below the driver. Of course you know that all the fittings I took with me were the wrong ones so I'll have to get what I need in the morning on the way back to the bus. Next we tried to start the bus and the batt were dead. Put my chargers on the batt and one of them quit so now is a good time to get a new bigger one. SO we decided to check out the 12v system and no go. This thing has a 60amp 110v to 12v converter and it was humming right along but no 12v output. checked fuses,reset button ...nothing. Decided to call it a day and go back tomorrow armed with more stuff to work with. Makes me want to eat a piece of coca cola cake Missy made today so I think I will. Will check in later.

Richard

Dreamscape · March 15, 2009, 07:11:09 PM

Richard, The air fitting to air up the coach on my 01 is above the bumper about 12-18". Does it have an Eagle Emblem on the front, it might be behind that. It should be there someplace, can't remember if it's a cap or a plug. If you don't see it look up under the front unless you have a pan there, you should spot it. The tank you found is the accessory tank, not sure if it will allow you to air up the coach through there or not, think it has a check valve. I'm not at home so can't go look in my books.

This was when I broke down in Palm Springs, showing the snorkle I hooked up.

Good Luck,

~Paul~

rdbishop · March 15, 2009, 08:04:05 PM

Hi Paul,

I did find that place with a cap that didn't want to come off so I thought I'd try the small tank. I have one there on my MCI and it will air up my bus so I'll try that first cause it looks easier and then I'll do it right. I'd like to be able to hook up without having to take the front off. Thanks again Paul, The fitting was where you said, and the cake made everything better!

Richard

Ericbsc · March 16, 2009, 10:50:21 AM

Is the compressor loading and unloading? If it is the gage could be faulty. If it is not unloading it could be:

A. Bad gov. on compressor.

B. The valves on the compressor. There are two of them inside a side plate. They look somewhat like a float valve on a carb. The rubber tips will sometimes stick to the seal when the coach sits for an extended period. When started the rubber gets damaged and will not seal. Mine did that and would not make full pressure.Bendix makes a kit with everything to replace them. They say field serviceable, but unless you can stand on your head, have four arms, and mouse hands, its easier to remove the pump. Four bolts, and don't forget the gear that is behind it.

zubzub · March 16, 2009, 11:43:19 AM

Don't forget the old school tricks....in this case tapping on the compressor head and governor with a light hammer. For more accuracy and hard to reach areas I enjoy a socket extension bar I place one end on the casing of the suspect sticking spot and tap on the other with a hammer. Works great for stuck float valves, thermostats, starters etc....see no reason why it might not free up a compressor governor. Also seeing as this is a bus that needs work maybe a little wd40 into the inlet of the governor. I do not know how the unloading mechanism works in the eagle but I know that the one in my GM has a handful of parts and can be disassembled quickly, sometimes a little clean up is all it needs...keeping it simple is always a good idea when trouble shooting.

rdbishop · April 02, 2009, 06:45:10 AM

Hi Guys,

Sorry it to so long to get back to reporting on the Eagle, but a brother-in-law passed away and I have had family and friends at the house for over a month during his illness. So, here goes ----
My brother-in-law (Bill) and I went to get the Eagle on 3-17-09, but there was still not enough air pressure to release the brakes. I hooked a fitting to the air tank below the driver, and as you said, it had a check valve so we couldn't fill the air there. So we tied into the line that went to the front of the bus by the Eagle emblem. Before we could get it aired up the compressor released and we built up enough pressure to get the brakes to release. We spent about a day and half trying to get the 12 volt system working before we drove the bus. We found out it's not good to work on a bus when you are tired. Anyway, after all that, we found that when the house batteries had been installed the wires were hooked up backwards. So it took a lot of tracing wires to get everything right. Now the 12 volt system is working great. When we went to start the bus, it wouldn't start from the driver's seat. I found a button in the engine compartment, pushed it, and it started. It took us a while, but we found a switch in the engine compartment (that we thought was a light switch) and flipped it, and then we could start it from the drivers seat. Meanwhile, the brother-in-law was checking out switches inside the bus, and when we started it up the engine died. I thought we might have fuel problem, checked the fuel filter and it looked brand new. So that wasn't the problem. After checking everything to see why it wouldn't run, we found that the emergency flap was closed, so no air was getting to the engine. Now here's the good part - my brother-in-law had pushed the emergency switch, which he thought was the emergency flashers, but it was the emergency shutdown. We reset everything and - walla - everything worked. It was late in the day, the bus started, air pressure was good, started to drive off, and then we had nothing but idle. When we pushed on the gas peddle the fuel linkage wouldn't move at the engine. So we gave up for the day, went home to get some rest and went back the next day. We removed the bed to get to the linkage, WD-40'd everything front to back, kept working it until it finally released. So now we are ready to go. As my brother-in-law drove the bus off and I was following him, there was black smoke blowing like crazy. We stopped to get fuel and then came on to my house. We finally made it - and now the work began. We pulled the air filter and found it was stopped up - full of everything from sitting, grease and whatever else could be in it. Then we found none of the upper clearance lights worked. In order to get a inspection sticker we had to make sure everything was working, so we started looking to see what was wrong. There was power going up in the engine compartment, but nothing at any of the lights on top of the bus. We got the front lights working but still had a problem with the back upper lights. Since there we had no wiring diagram we decided to run a new wire, and that fixed everything. So now the bus is licensed, inspected and insured and ready to go. We took it for a couple of test drives without the filter (because we hadn't bought one yet). It still smoked on acceleration, but we decided we would drive it for a while and see if it stops smoking. We think there may be an EPA value that isn't hooked up, but we will check all that out later.
The brother-in-law joined our website, FMCA and has applied for membership to Eagle International. We are also going to make the trip to Louisiana in May for the Eagle rally and hope to get more information about owning an Eagle, from all you Eagle guys.
I have to say, working on an Eagle is completely different than an MCI.
Later, if I can figure out how to do it, I am going to try and post a picture of the bus before it was cleaned up.

luvrbus · April 02, 2009, 07:08:32 AM

Richard, if he hasn't changed the differential and transmission grease I would do that with the bus setting that long it will save him money in the long run.Looking forward to seeing you at Breaux Bridge good luck

rdbishop · April 02, 2009, 07:24:04 AM

Hi luvrbus,

The bus looks like it needs a grease job. What should he use? Also, isn't there a place here on the board that tells you how to post pitures?

Richard

luvrbus · April 02, 2009, 07:39:12 AM

Richard, any good chassis grease will work, tell him to go to Fastenal and buy a bag of zert fitting he will need them. About the posting of photos I gave up on that along time ago but guys are going through photobucket to do it now.Tell your brother in law to put his Eagle in the project thread on the Eagles board also check it out www.eaglesinternational.net Dale added us a new feature where the photos of the buses rotate on the top of the page it's pretty neat. If he needs a lube chart just ask in the Tech section and somebody will post one for him good luck

luvrbus · April 02, 2009, 08:14:02 AM

Richard, I forgot to mention that when on the Eagles site hit the refresh button and it will change the photo to a different bus at the top. good luck

Dreamscape · April 02, 2009, 06:09:40 PM

Richard, Sounds like you are learning the hard way, but sometimes that's the best way. You won't forget all the little steps that you missed or pushed the wrong button or switch!

If you need help with posting pics at Eagles International don't listen to Clifford, it's not that hard!

We'll help you or Bill work that out. Can't wait to see some pics of the bird!

Good Luck and Welcome!

PS, sorry to here of your brother in laws passing.

~Paul~

rdbishop · April 03, 2009, 07:35:52 AM

Let's see if the picture of the Eagle shows up on this post.

Dreamscape · April 03, 2009, 12:32:34 PM

Richard, You can post a larger pic in the post if you want, that's pretty small. After I enlarged it I saw the horns on the cap and the painted aluminum siding. Are you keeping the horns?

~Paul~

rdbishop · April 03, 2009, 01:18:27 PM

Hi Paul,

Bill's wife says the horns stay!!! He said he's going to leave like it is for now and use it. The bus is finished inside and everything is working. I think he made a really good deal. I'm sorry about the small picture but after 3 hrs of trying, I was lucky to come up with this. I wish they had a step by step for posting pictures. I'm sorry, but I have to agree with Clifford, It's to HARD! See you at the rally!

Richard