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Title: Alternative fuel thread........
Post by: Chaz on November 15, 2007, 01:48:19 PM
Ok, where did it go?? Am I missing something??? I thought we were all playing nice!! Some good thoughts, lessons and examples were being given.
  Did it get ugly in the last 2 hours?? Or somebodies panties get all up in a bunch??
  This is something I'm REALLY interested in.  :'( :'( :'( And there is new info out there all the time and I was hoping it would develop into a good conversation and a sharing topic of possibly new info.

   Really curious,
      Chaz
Title: Re: Alternative fuel thread........
Post by: HB of CJ on November 15, 2007, 01:51:31 PM
I for one do not know what you are talking about.  Did something happen while I was off this board?  Apparently it has to do with a thread discussing bio-diesel, but I could be totally wrong toossss.  Maybe you could give us a sit-rep as to what is going on here.  Flying blind right now.  Thanks.  :) :) :)
Title: Re: Alternative fuel thread........
Post by: Dreamscape on November 15, 2007, 02:21:24 PM
Chaz,

It go move to the OT section, for what reason I do not know. The posts were bus related, I thought.  ;)

Maybe someone should start a topic with the heading "Alternative Fuels" that would be a permanent fixture.

Paul'
Title: Re: Alternative fuel thread........
Post by: makemineatwostroke on November 15, 2007, 02:52:20 PM
nothing to do with fuel but the 57 Eagle post is gone now also
Title: Re: Alternative fuel thread........
Post by: Dreamscape on November 15, 2007, 02:54:56 PM
Also the post on 1982 Prevost (green) is missing. I tried to post and it said "Error". What is going on?

Paul
Title: Re: Alternative fuel thread........
Post by: Dallas on November 15, 2007, 03:00:10 PM
Quote from: Dreamscape on November 15, 2007, 02:54:56 PM
Also the post on 1982 Prevost (green) is missing. I tried to post and it said "Error". What is going on?

Paul

I think Phil is going to need to optimize the sql databases again.  :(

Paul I had no problem getting to the Prevost Thread: http://www.busconversions.com/bbs/index.php?topic=6357.0
Title: Re: Alternative fuel thread........
Post by: Dreamscape on November 15, 2007, 03:04:27 PM
Dallas,

There are more recent posts than what is shown on the above link, that are not there.

FYI

Paul
Title: Re: Alternative fuel thread........
Post by: Nick Badame Refrig/ACC on November 15, 2007, 03:12:25 PM
Hi Paul,

We need Phil to clean up the site a bit..

I have also noticed that pages are starting to load slowwwww..

Nick-
Title: Re: Alternative fuel thread........
Post by: Chaz on November 15, 2007, 03:17:29 PM
Paul,
 I'm very curious about that too. Hopefully Richard can enlighten us.
 I'm not sure the thread would have to be a "permanent fixture" but if it did "fade" it could be put over in the "Help" section with the other one (which is, by the way, locked). I think the thread there has had 7225 hits, or something like that. Now THAT is some kind of interest!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So it definitly is something worth discussing.
 I'd be glad to get one started, but I'd like to know if it's a "taboo" subject or not. My guess would be because some people have a WAAAAAY too much of a bad opinion of the subject and not want to play nice. I can totally understand them not liking it because of what they "experienced" or maybe even what they have heard, but thats what the discussion is for!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MAN!!!
 I am working on setting mine up, but if someone can convince/prove to me it is so bad, I won't do it. (again, a good discussion!) But I understand that if done correctly, it will be an AWESOME addition to my bus, cause the saving I get will be when I use my bus so i will be able to use it more!!!!!! It's not like saving money on parts or something where that money could be used for something else.  IE. if chocolate (or Bailey's Irish Cream  ;D) were 1/200th the actual price, I'd save money enjoying it on a lot more frequent basis!!!!!!  ::)  Know what I mean, jellybean??

 Anyway, hopefully this will be worked out. I don't think I am the only one interested in this subject.  Am I ?? ?? ?? ??

   Chaz
Title: Re: Alternative fuel thread........
Post by: Chaz on November 15, 2007, 03:19:52 PM
Well, I'm a slow typer and seen the previous posts before posting but did it anyway. I can understand the page slowing down but why would you move an active thread??

  Again, just asking,
     Chaz
Title: Re: Alternative fuel thread........
Post by: Dallas on November 15, 2007, 04:08:39 PM
Wasn't me Chaz! I'm innocent and nearly Virginal! :D
Title: Re: Alternative fuel thread........
Post by: Chaz on November 15, 2007, 05:11:28 PM
 ;D ;D ;D  Dallas, Dallas, Dallas.................. Sad thing is.......................................................... I believe ya!!!!   ::)



  NOT!!!!!!!!!!!  ;D

     Chaz
Title: Re: Alternative fuel thread........
Post by: Stan on November 15, 2007, 05:52:07 PM
I just read this thread and see nothing on it that is not OT.
Title: Re: Alternative fuel thread........
Post by: captain ron on November 15, 2007, 07:34:35 PM
I am actually in the process of converting mine as we speak. I have one of the tanks mounted and I'm building my manifold that heats the WVO and the other hydronic stuff from my Proheat. I am a little concerned about my setup because of the DDEC. If anybody can educate me on the fuel system on a DDEC it would be great. I only want factual info from knowledgable people that really know what they are talking about not "I think it works like this" as this is very important to me. I need to know about fuel heat and cooling as pertaining to DDEC operations. Electronic injectors, how they work? Fuel pressure requirements. A list of things I need to be aware of.

Chaz, I like the way you think outside the box. I have some info to share with you on making your system work. Your's will be a walk in the park compared to mine but you should take all the same precautions I am with mine. I was fortunate enough to get about 200 gallons or so from another busnut so when I get mine working I will have plenty of fuel to test with.
Title: Re: Alternative fuel thread........
Post by: larryh on November 16, 2007, 04:35:00 AM
Chaz,

Keep after em guy. I will keep on running my bio-diesel fuel my cost has went up to about 85 cents per gallon now with the higher trucking charges. At this rate I can keep on traveling in the bus and can afford a T-Bone steak now and then which I can't do burning diesel from our overseas friends so called.

I was inspected by the AZ gestapo at road side check point and they was checking for red off road fuel and had no concern for my veggie Bio-Diesel which you can buy at a lot of places at about same price as Diesel #2.

LarryH
Title: Re: Alternative fuel thread........
Post by: Chaz on November 16, 2007, 10:55:33 AM
Stan,
  Hmmmm, I see this whole thread being about bus's. ( are you messin with me?  ;) ;) ;)) Actually, and more importantly, it's about "bus threads". (which I get real shaky when I don't get my daily fix!! :D :D :D)

  RIGHT ON CHARLEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I knew I liked more abut you than just your name!!  ;D  I'd be very interested in what kind of info you have!!! The thread on alternative fuel in the Help section has allot of good info if you aren't aware of it. There is a guy named Chris - not sure of his "handle" right now has a co. that does this for cars. Good guy with lots of info.
  Hey, Stan is kinda right. I think I will start a new thread about this and try and clean it all up.

  Heck yeah Larry!!!!!!!!!!!! My initial thoughts were to make bio but I weighed it and weighed it and it really came down to trying wvo first. Maybe I'll move over some day, but for now I'm going to try wvo. BUT!!!!!! Man I'd LOVE to get any info, tips, tricks, etc. that you might have!! And I would imagine there are plenty others interested too.
 
   Well, it's 3 hours later so I better get this posted.  :P

      Chaz
Title: Re: Alternative fuel thread........
Post by: Dreamscape on November 16, 2007, 10:59:34 AM
Guys,

USA Today has an article on winter vacations. It describes and shows a picture of a bus that uses WVO. Check it out.

Paul
Title: Re: Alternative fuel thread........
Post by: Chaz on November 16, 2007, 11:22:25 AM
Dang, wish I had access to one. I'll try the web.
    Chaz
Title: Re: Alternative fuel thread........
Post by: Lin on November 16, 2007, 11:31:09 AM
I have seen some sites were they talk about using unprocessed SVO without heat by mixing with kerosene and some other ingredients.  Does anyone know anything about that?
Title: Re: Alternative fuel thread........
Post by: captain ron on November 16, 2007, 12:28:29 PM
Don't trust it!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: Alternative fuel thread........
Post by: Chaz on November 16, 2007, 02:36:01 PM
I agree with Charley. There are things out there that are probably marginal at best.
Let's start a new thread now and see if we can drum up a little new info..................



Chaz