Eagle model 20, Series 60, DDEC III
Will start and idle at 600 rpm, will go into gear, will release parking brake, can move bus @ idle
Will not accept accelleration at pedal, working OK when parked last night
Happened before approx one month ago. Fiddled with switches. Started to work again. Don't know what happened to solve the issue, lost road cruise control since that problem
Fiddled with switches this time with no luck.
Can fast idle with cruise control (cc), bus panel fast idle switch on turns off cc fast idle, fast idle panel switch will not increase rpm, fast idle panel switch on overrides any cc function
Have tried all combinations using cc, jakes, and fast idle (both cc and panel), am about to check voltage at potentlometer. Have no reason to suspect it bad, but will post right back if it is
Am in Glenallen, Alaska, population 500 . No local help. 2:00 pm local time. 6:00 pm eastern. My number 931 247 30 six zero if you can help. Thanks.
Gary
Or you flashing any codes Gary,clean the TPS real good all connections and the rollers then use Wayne's hair drier and dry it good,Be sure to check the rubber hose on the turbo sensor and fuel filters
I haven't had a "dead pedal" issue in the shop for a while now. APP sensor would be the first place to look. Check for any debris build up or any binding or sticking. I believe the sensor runs between .5 - 4.5V. The ECM may ignore it if it's out of this range.
It seems strange if the check engine light is not solid or flashing. I had a TPS problem with my S60 DDEC III once that lit up the check engine light. My problem was simply that I had an electric heater on the floor that was getting the TPS too warm. All was well once I moved the heater.
What is the APP sensor on a DDEC 111 that is new one for me
Thanks for the reply Clifford.
The roller could use a little shining up but, it and the spring work the potentiometer the way it should. The bus starts and runs strong. The cruise control will take the rpm to 1,ooo and higher (and hold it there) so, I feel confident the fuel filters are in acceptable condition.
About the rubber hose, enlighten me further, please. Thanks.
Gary
SOMEONE at Crowley fuel (907- 822-3375)
should know where a competent looker atter is at, if not at their shop...they haul fuel tankers all over the state.
maybe fishers too... (907) 822-3375
APP is "accelerator pedal position
Try pulling up on the brake pedal.
Art
I just talked to Gary for a while. His check engine light does not work. He does have the Silverleaf software and I was able to guide him through getting the codes from there. He has been getting SAE code 91 4 which is flash code 22. This is Throttle Position Sensor voltage low. His pedal assembly does not have a plug at the TPS like mine does. He has a long cable going off from the pedal assembly and he can't find the other end of where it might plug in. I recommended he find out where it goes and make sure it is not loose there or something.
He got off the phone because a local mechanic had just showed up. Could a code for low voltage from the TPS mean there is an open on the wiring somewhere?
Code 22 flashes when the throttle count goes below 48 he should be reading 102-205 at idle over 968 it will flash code 21 He needs to measure the voltage at A3 and C3 both are grounds if higher than 0.2 he has a short on line 952 or 916 Maybe his guy has a Pro/Link
Years ago I lived in the Glennallen area...wonder who you found to look at it ?
I talked to Gary briefly on the phone a little bit ago and he seems to have traced the problem to not getting 5 volts from the DDEC to the TPS. He is still working on it.
If its made by Williams (the pedal) there's a way to reset it..
ignition on (no start)
pedal on (fully) for 5 times, then off.. that will reset the TPS sensor
Anyone heard from Gary ? I never know what time zone he is in when I think about calling
Quote from: luvrbus on July 01, 2015, 12:50:25 PM
Anyone heard from Gary ? I never know what time zone he is in when I think about calling
Clifford. He is an hour behind you. He will be lucky to have any cell coverage, except for GCI in Glenallen. Hopefully he gets back to internet sometime.
He's in the heart of some of the best red Salmon fishing in the state...I know where I'd be :)
Yea the Copper River is good fishing if you can figure when the season opens and closes,lol when we were at Gakona you could fish for a day or 2 then it would close and open back up in 2 days.
I would sure like to be where a summer day is 60 degrees instead of 114 degrees though
Clifford last week this time we were floating in Jamaica Mon and it was 100 but didn't seem as hot but the Humidity was 85.
110 here yesterday but cooled down today 102 so far.
Ah Red Salmon with a couple of okie drifters.
I think all the red salmon in the Copper river are hatchery raised
Copper River run reds and king salmon are natives, they are always the first to the market in Seattle and else where.
The Prince William Sound Hatchery at Cordova is limited to pink salmon they are also called humpbacks or humpies :)
these are most often what one gets when they buy canned salmon.
http://www.fishex.com/seafood/salmon/copper-river-salmon.html (http://www.fishex.com/seafood/salmon/copper-river-salmon.html)
The most we ever paid for salmon in AK was .29 cents, the price of a hook :)
the thing about salmon is they return to spawn where they were born, consequently they rarely get very far up river. i am no fish expert but have never caught a pink in the copper river. but i never fished the mouth.they are plentiful in Valdeeez.
Sockeye,red ,blueback whatever people call them Ak has some strange fishing laws you catch a wild tagged salmon they take it way from you ??? same with the Halibut in Homer you never knew for sure if you could keep it or not
When we were at Upper Cook's inlet I saw one of the commercial fishing boats come in 40 tons of Salmon that is a lot of Salmon.I like fishing for Salmon in Idaho the weather is better
My favorite was on the docks in Kodiak, King crab was pretty cheap...but not anymore. ;D
actually many days u were best off to carry a transistor radio...they would close the fishing that quick, on the other hand i have seen years where you could catch and keep 6 reds per day.
Can we presume that Gary has solved the code issues on his Series 60?
Mike in GA
Quote from: luvrbus on July 01, 2015, 12:50:25 PM
Anyone heard from Gary ? I never know what time zone he is in when I think about calling
It appears he is four hours behind Eastern time. Probably Pacific time zone.
Quote from: belfert on July 02, 2015, 05:42:12 AM
It appears he is four hours behind Eastern time. Probably Pacific time zone.
It is actually Alaska Time Zone, one hour further behind Pacific Time Zone. Right now, UTC -8HRS.
We got Gary going. The ECM lost it's 5 volt power supply to the throttle position sensor. Gary checked every related circuit to make sure there was no opens or grounds where there didn't need to be. Then he tapped into the 5 volt sensor supply on the engine side and connected that 5 volts to his throttle and away he went. I think he's headed south but in no hurry.
Ken