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Title: Need a jake installed - S GA
Post by: opus on May 03, 2014, 12:10:26 PM
Anyone know anyone that might want to do this?
Title: Re: Need a jake installed - S GA
Post by: luvrbus on May 03, 2014, 07:34:02 PM
On what engine and bus ?
Title: Re: Need a jake installed - S GA
Post by: opus on May 03, 2014, 08:14:49 PM
Eagle, maybe 1985, 6v92.
Title: Re: Need a jake installed - S GA
Post by: blue_goose on May 04, 2014, 07:31:31 AM
Ray Cox
Gay, GA
404-392-7059
Title: Re: Need a jake installed - S GA
Post by: opus on May 04, 2014, 07:38:30 AM
Quote from: blue_goose on May 04, 2014, 07:31:31 AM
Ray Cox
Gay, GA
404-392-7059

Will pass it on, thank you.
Title: Re: Need a jake installed - S GA
Post by: opus on May 22, 2014, 03:06:57 PM
Well, Ray didnt want the job so it go turned to a dealer in Tifton, GA.  Guess they installed the Jake but didnt know they had to program it on the ECM.  2 weeks of work and now the bus is heading west with a non working Jake.  Pretty bad deal all around from how I hear it.
Title: Re: Need a jake installed - S GA
Post by: luvrbus on May 22, 2014, 03:40:17 PM
That may not be as simple as turning the Jake on in the ECM what version of DDEC is it ?
Title: Re: Need a jake installed - S GA
Post by: opus on May 22, 2014, 04:10:14 PM
I think the Eagle originally was a 2 but they put a 3 in it.  Then again they may not know for sure.
Title: Re: Need a jake installed - S GA
Post by: wg4t50 on May 22, 2014, 05:27:40 PM
Since I have no idea about any DDEC setups, I would wire the Jake to a switch at operator position, and use as needed.
But what else would a 4th grade drop out do ?
Dave M
Title: Re: Need a jake installed - S GA
Post by: luvrbus on May 22, 2014, 05:39:29 PM
If it is wired right any shop with a Pro/Link can activate the Jake and set the % of braking if it is a III
Title: Re: Need a jake installed - S GA
Post by: opus on May 22, 2014, 05:43:13 PM
Yeah Dave, I'm with you!!
Title: Re: Need a jake installed - S GA
Post by: FolkBus on May 22, 2014, 06:28:32 PM
Good Call, Dave..Computers seem to just get in the way

Took my MC-5A for a spring test drive today Montrose -> Whitewater -> Gateway -> Norwood (Norwood hill is a great test for the jake on the 8V-71) -> Ridgway -> Home...Winter cooling system work tested just fine.  Headed to El Centro, CA next month for family reunion.

Everything works!!!

-Mike
Title: Re: Need a jake installed - S GA
Post by: luvrbus on May 22, 2014, 06:54:58 PM
Not a good idea to hook Jakes up direct on a DDEC IMO plus he may have a electronic transmission
Title: Re: Need a jake installed - S GA
Post by: opus on June 02, 2014, 06:48:20 PM
And yet they spent another 10 hr/$780 day at a Detroit shop and no working jake.  Wow, where have all the mechanics gone??
Title: Re: Need a jake installed - S GA
Post by: blue_goose on June 03, 2014, 06:39:19 AM
If the Jake wasn't in the program you have to go back to DD and pay them to add the jake to the program.  One of my friends had a DD3 that didn't have the Jake in the program. With help from Ken he got it turned on in the program, but for some reason the Jake still isn't working. 
Jack
Title: Re: Need a jake installed - S GA
Post by: opus on June 03, 2014, 06:47:07 AM
Thats where they are at.  We're trying to talk them into bypassing the ECM and go direct.  Just like we had them in the old days.  I think they've spent over $2000 trying to get DD dealers to get it to work.  Too add to the problem, it was a DDEC2 engine and they put a DDEC3 in its place.
Title: Re: Need a jake installed - S GA
Post by: luvrbus on June 03, 2014, 06:52:25 AM
If he has a ATEC or a WTEC transmission if the program is not in the transmission the Jakes will not engage on a DDEC, he can do what ever he wants but I would hook the Jakes direct
Title: Re: Need a jake installed - S GA
Post by: opus on June 03, 2014, 06:56:51 AM
Its a 740 so its not electronic.  Yes, they should hook them direct and be gone.
Title: Re: Need a jake installed - S GA
Post by: luvrbus on June 03, 2014, 07:43:36 AM
Let him do it but the Jakes hooked up direct has no way of telling the Jakes it is going no fuel, If your friend is in OR I can send him to a shop that can have the Jakes working in a hour if they did all the right things when upgrading from a ll to lll

good luck
Title: Re: Need a jake installed - S GA
Post by: opus on June 03, 2014, 07:47:12 AM
He's in Billings now at Detroit.  They wont be getting to OR, plus the funds have run out for this.  I figured when he comes here, if they arent working, I will wire them direct.  I assure you that all the upgrade "things" were not done.

He'll have to get used to letting off the throttle, then throwing a switch, turning the Jake on, etc.
Title: Re: Need a jake installed - S GA
Post by: digesterman on June 03, 2014, 04:37:47 PM
Quote from: luvrbus on June 03, 2014, 07:43:36 AM
Let him do it but the Jakes hooked up direct has no way of telling the Jakes it is going no fuel, If your friend is in OR I can send him to a shop that can have the Jakes working in a hour if they did all the right things when upgrading from a ll to lll

good luck
Could I get the name and number of your Oregon recommendation? Thanks