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Title: Eagles Board
Post by: luvrbus on November 05, 2011, 06:56:26 AM
Any of the Eagles owners here having trouble with the Eagles board I haven't been able to get on

good luck
Title: Re: Eagles Board
Post by: rv_safetyman on November 05, 2011, 07:17:25 AM
Hi Clifford.  The Eagle board is working fine. 

However, anyone trying to access the board via HughesNet (satellite Internet) will most likely experience a problem.  The details of the rather weird situation (not at all consistent for a bunch of folks trying) is listed here:

http://www.datastormusers.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?/ubb/get_topic/f/4/t/001826.html (http://www.datastormusers.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?/ubb/get_topic/f/4/t/001826.html)

This whole thing started about two-three weeks ago.  The host for the site was hit hard by spammers/hackers and had to build a new server.  Somehow in the process Hughes did not recognize the new server.  Most folks said to wait and all would be well.  Well, after at least two weeks, I had my VAR (MotoSat) file a formal complaint ticket with Hughes (not a customer friendly company) yesterday.  As of this morning, I am getting on with the satellite connection.

If you go to the above link, you will see that I could get on with the Verizon air card, but not the satellite.

BTW, this also affected the rts-bus.com site.

If you are using some other means of connecting, try a refresh and see if that works.

Jim
Title: Re: Eagles Board
Post by: rv_safetyman on November 05, 2011, 07:22:55 AM
Now that I reflect on it, maybe one of the other moderators black flagged you as a trouble maker :D ;D :D ;D

When we were having all the problems, our website administrator (songman) put me on to a neat website that checks to see if a website is down:

http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com (http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com)

Not sure that they would be of help if they connected via HughesNet ;D

Jim
Title: Re: Eagles Board
Post by: thomasinnv on November 05, 2011, 08:54:12 AM
Jim, still working for you? I have never been able to get on and still can't.

edit:I can access it by using a proxy server
Title: Re: Eagles Board
Post by: luvrbus on November 05, 2011, 09:13:58 AM
Not working for me Jim I turned the firewall off tried with both Firefox and Explorer,I have been on my best behavior ::) there lately  ::) you know I don't like ticking people off that would be out of character for me  ;D


good luck
Title: Re: Eagles Board
Post by: busdriver58 on November 05, 2011, 09:43:54 AM
Quote from: luvrbus on November 05, 2011, 09:13:58 AM
Not working for me ...

Me too, I have problems at home and at my desk in the office, two different ISP's...
Title: Re: Eagles Board
Post by: saddleup on November 05, 2011, 10:37:06 AM
I can get on just fine useing my Verizon deal, but cant get on with the wifi  that the daughters got, the only web site i can't get on is Eagles.
Matt
Title: Re: Eagles Board
Post by: rv_safetyman on November 05, 2011, 10:44:24 AM
Wow, seems like there could be an issue.

To help us track this down, would some of you mind trying to view the rts-bus.com site:

http://rts-bus.com/ (http://rts-bus.com/)

They are on the same server. 

I can't visit either site right now with the HughesNet connection, but testing site noted in a previous post says they are both up. 

Jim
Title: Re: Eagles Board
Post by: luvrbus on November 05, 2011, 10:49:00 AM
No problem with getting the RTS site for me Jim 

good luck
Title: Re: Eagles Board
Post by: rusty on November 05, 2011, 11:13:42 AM
 I have not had any trouble at all. The computer at home uses a verizon air card and at work we have some sort of system that serves the office park. That lets you know how much I know about this stuff. Any way I have never had a problem getting on the site.

Wayne
Title: Re: Eagles Board
Post by: busdriver58 on November 05, 2011, 11:59:15 AM
No problem with getting the RTS site for me and now I can get EI site also...
Title: Re: Eagles Board
Post by: luvrbus on November 05, 2011, 12:10:47 PM
Same here Jim working now
Title: Re: Eagles Board
Post by: Eagle on November 05, 2011, 01:00:12 PM
Cliff they may have had you in time out for bad behavior.
Title: Re: Eagles Board
Post by: Eagle Andy on November 05, 2011, 02:08:26 PM
That  could be true of Clifford  ;D  lol I haven't had any trouble
Title: Re: Eagles Board
Post by: bobofthenorth on November 05, 2011, 02:37:52 PM
Today I can access both with my Hughes connection Jim but je ne parle pas Eagle so I won't bother registering.  ;D
Title: Re: Eagles Board
Post by: Dreamscape on November 05, 2011, 10:14:10 PM
We have had some problems a few weeks back, but it seems to be fine now. Not sure what is going on. Maybe server problems again.
Title: Re: Eagles Board
Post by: rv_safetyman on November 11, 2011, 07:28:50 AM
Just an update on HughesNet problems and a followup to see if folks are still having a problem.

In the past few days, finally, it looks like I can login via HughesNet reliably. 

That said, it sounded like other folks were having issues getting to the website that were not related to HughesNet.  If you have had problems, try logging into the main page:

http://www.eaglesinternational.net/ (http://www.eaglesinternational.net/)

From there you can click on the Eagle Forum tab.  That should get you a list of forums that you can view.  If you have a problem, please let me know (use reply and not PM - I hate the PM function ::)).  Using reply will let others know what issues may exist.

The first thing to do if you have a problem is to hit the refresh "button" on your browser.  That should clear any stored issues from your browser.

We need to review the "rules" of the Eagles board. 

First, ANYONE can view all of the public areas of the website - and we encourage you to do that.  Next, to post you must register.  ANYONE can register.  That said, Dale has to do a huge amount of work to make sure spammers are not able to join, so it takes a bit of time to get "approved".  We will not reject any legitimate request to register on the site. 

Lastly, members of The Eagles International Chapter of FMCA have access to additional forums that are chapter related. However, the vast majority of valuable dialogue is in the public areas of the website.

One of the best features of the site is the Project Eagles forum.  There are some really neat projects documented in that forum.

Jim
Title: Re: Eagles Board
Post by: Ericbsc on November 11, 2011, 08:00:10 AM
I can get on in the mornings, but not afternoon? It seems to be random. Tried refresh, close and reopen.
Title: Re: Eagles Board
Post by: luvrbus on November 11, 2011, 08:07:45 AM
I have problems also Eric at around 7 pm takes 2 or 3 attempts, thought it was you guys don't love me anymore.

Our tech section for Eagles is also a good section we don't do the SOB just Eagles


good luck
Title: Re: Eagles Board
Post by: thomasinnv on November 11, 2011, 08:11:24 AM
works for me on hughes net now.
Title: Re: Eagles Board
Post by: Ericbsc on November 11, 2011, 08:20:45 AM
Same here Clifford. I don't know if it is the board or the glass of brandy?????
Title: Re: Eagles Board
Post by: white-eagle on November 11, 2011, 08:42:29 AM
Quote from: bobofthenorth on November 05, 2011, 02:37:52 PM
Today I can access both with my Hughes connection Jim but je ne parle pas Eagle so I won't bother registering.  ;D


i suspect you are looking at a cached copy.  mine isn't working thru hughesnet.  initially came up but a refresh deleted it.

why would they slip up and let a prevost in anyway?  ;)
Title: Re: Eagles Board
Post by: Busted Knuckle on November 11, 2011, 10:33:28 AM
Setra's should be allowed. As they are a "REFINED" Eagle, Kässbohrer designed and built them both from the beginning!

Sorta like a red headed step child or 2nd cousin thing! ;D
;D  BK  ;D
Title: Re: Eagles Board
Post by: RJ on November 11, 2011, 10:40:22 AM
Quote from: Busted Knuckle on November 11, 2011, 10:33:28 AM
Setra's should be allowed. As they are a "REFINED" Eagle, Kässbohrer designed and built them both from the beginning!


Das is true, but now they're built by Mercedes. . . Jury's out still. . .

;D
Title: Re: Eagles Board
Post by: rusty on November 12, 2011, 10:46:22 AM
Well today I can not get on the site from the bosses computer at home. It says the server that the site has is not responding. This is the first time I have not been able to get on it. I know, it is Sonnie kicking all us old guys off.

Wayne
Title: Re: Eagles Board
Post by: rv_safetyman on November 12, 2011, 11:35:56 AM
Wayne, I just checked here:

http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/eaglesinternational.net (http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/eaglesinternational.net)

and it says that the site is down.

Hopefully they are working on it.  Our ISP is pretty good about getting things back on line.

Jim
Title: Re: Eagles Board
Post by: luvrbus on November 12, 2011, 11:58:44 AM
What is going on the site seems to be down much more now than the past
Title: Re: Eagles Board
Post by: rv_safetyman on November 14, 2011, 05:44:30 AM
Clifford, I am being told that the ISP is getting hit hard by spammers/hackers.  As you point out, the site has been down more than in the past.  All we can do is monitor the history and hope that the ISP gets a handle on the problem

My problem with HughesNet continues.  It was going pretty good until the site crashed and now I can't get on.  I have to check it with my iPhone. 

Hughes did check the site using my identical equipment/satellite/frequency and had no problem.  Since the site has not been stable, I am going to hold off blaming HughesNet and see if things on both ends settle down.

Jim
Title: Re: Eagles Board
Post by: thomasinnv on November 14, 2011, 07:30:33 AM
Jim, you should still be able to access the site from your hughesnet using an outside proxy. Google will turn up several to chose from. That is how I have been getting on for a while now. Just google "free proxy server"
Title: Re: Eagles Board
Post by: Songman on November 14, 2011, 01:39:52 PM
The Eagles International forum was down last Saturday for a few hours because of a bad RAM partition in the server. We did have some trouble a couple of months ago with some hackers from France trying to break into the server and that caused downtime. We have since moved the Eagle forum and some others over to a brand new server machine with a new IP address. As most of you know, just because something is new doesn't necessarily mean it works. It did work fine for a couple of weeks until the RAM died. So it took a while to figure out which one it was and get it replaced. Our webhost, Jason, did all of this without me ever knowing about it because I have been out of town for a week for a funeral. I just got home today and after some phone conversations with Jim, Wayne, and Jason, I got the good news.

No one should be having problems with the Eagles International forum at this time. If you are, please contact me so I can figure out what the issue is. I don't know what the HughesNet issue is. It is completely unrelated to what happened over the weekend.
Title: Re: Eagles Board
Post by: Ericbsc on November 14, 2011, 06:16:03 PM
Just tried and got this as usual"




Network Error (dns_server_failure)


Your request could not be processed because an error occurred contacting the DNS server. 
The DNS server may be temporarily unavailable, or there could be a network problem. 

For assistance, contact your network support team. 
Title: Re: Eagles Board
Post by: Songman on November 14, 2011, 09:44:59 PM
Hey Eric. Try this...

DNS errors can be caused by an ISP with a non updated DNS server. They can be caused by your local router, or your local computer. But they are not from the site.

There is a few trouble shooting things you can do to see where it is failing.

First go to a command line Start--Run-- Command when the black screen appears type

ipconfig /flushdns and press enter

that will clear all dns entries from your local machine (dont worry it needs clearing sometimes)

Then type ping eaglesinternational.net and see if you get an error or get a response. If you get an error call your ISP and have them check the DNS server entries.
Title: Re: Eagles Board
Post by: luvrbus on November 16, 2011, 10:54:24 AM
Is it down again  ?
Title: Re: Eagles Board
Post by: rusty on November 16, 2011, 11:49:38 AM
Has been working all day for me. Have you paid your dues? ;D

Wayne
Title: Re: Eagles Board
Post by: luvrbus on November 16, 2011, 01:10:45 PM
Not working for me Wayne and no I haven't paid my dues will that help lol this is getting old

I have turned the firewall off and my IP says it is not on their end 

good luck
Title: Re: Eagles Board
Post by: rv_safetyman on November 16, 2011, 04:23:31 PM
Clifford, the ISP will always say it is not them and the server folks will always say they are not the problem.

How do you connect to the internet (DSL, Cable, Air Card, etc).  Maybe that will help.

I connect via satellite (HughesNet) and I get on at times and other times not.  Never have a problem with Verizon, AT&T or daughters wimax system.

Jim
Title: Re: Eagles Board
Post by: rv_safetyman on November 16, 2011, 04:42:22 PM
OK, it was suggested that I could try a proxy server to see if that would do the job.  I did some searching and tried this site:

http://moonspeed.info/ (http://moonspeed.info/)

You simply go to that sight and then enter the eaglesinternational.net address.  Bingo, I got on.  Since I was logging in from a different path, I had to enter my login information, but then I got right on.  Then went back to my standard path and I can't load the pages.

So, I guess I will have to use the proxy server method until this whole thing gets smoothed out.

Clifford, would you try that path and see what you get.

Jim
Title: Re: Eagles Board
Post by: luvrbus on November 16, 2011, 04:45:45 PM
It is working ok now and I use DSL or AT&T nether would work today on different laptops
Title: Re: Eagles Board
Post by: Songman on November 17, 2011, 06:37:05 AM
The site has not been down since the RAM change last Saturday.
Title: Re: Eagles Board
Post by: luvrbus on November 17, 2011, 07:02:54 AM
Something wrong with it never a problem till lately and it is not just me not having much luck today either the RTS board does fine 

good luck
Title: Re: Eagles Board
Post by: thomasinnv on November 17, 2011, 07:21:23 AM
not working for me today either on broadband or the satellite.
Title: Re: Eagles Board
Post by: Songman on November 17, 2011, 07:55:01 AM
I don't know what to tell you, Clifford. The Eagle board and the RTS board are running the exact same software on the exact same machine. Everything is identical on them. If one is working, both are working... Plus, if anyone can see the site that means the site is working. The site is working perfectly for me. I am on the phone with Eric now and it is working for him. Like I said, I am more than willing to help people figure it out on an individual basis, but the problem is not with the site.
Title: Re: Eagles Board
Post by: Songman on November 17, 2011, 07:56:06 AM
Derrick, tell me what the error message is that you are getting and I will help you get it working.
Title: Re: Eagles Board
Post by: Van on November 17, 2011, 08:55:25 AM
I have had no problem thus far, even on my phone.

  So far so good.

   Van
Title: Re: Eagles Board
Post by: Songman on November 17, 2011, 09:04:43 AM
Someone who is not able to reach the Eagle board, do me a favor and click this link and let me know what it says.

http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/eaglesinternational.net (http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/eaglesinternational.net)


I don't want anyone to think I am just trying to defend my work on the Eagle board and not listening to what ya'll are saying. The fact is that if anyone can reach the Eagle board, the board is working. I've been on and off the site all day with no problems. I have been on the phone with several people who are reaching it with no problems. The DNS error that Eric posted earlier is usually an individual or ISP problem. Has everyone that has had problems tried the correction I posted? There have been about 30 people on the board so far today. Our log files for the month are in line with usual - between 300-400 unique users per day.

I do want to help people but I need more than 'It's still not working'. It is working. I just need to figure out why you can't see it.

Title: Re: Eagles Board
Post by: luvrbus on November 17, 2011, 09:23:56 AM
Why did we start having problems we never have in the past and it couldn't be just the IP some of us live 2000 miles from each other I can get there by using Jim's method and I have tried with 3 different computers and browsers no other site is a problem

good luck
Title: Re: Eagles Board
Post by: Songman on November 17, 2011, 09:31:21 AM
Why does someone start having problems with their bus engine after not having for many miles? Because things happen... You have to maintain and repair a website just like with an engine.

I have documented why we started having problems. A hacker in France found a backdoor into an SQL database that was hosted on the server and was able to knock the server out. That was a couple of months ago. So we built a new server and changed the IP and reinstalled everything. (Kinda like an out of the frame overhaul) The new server went live in mid-October. Other than Saturday when the RAM module had to be replaced, there has been no downtime on the server.

Now having said all of that... specific ISPs might be slower rebuilding their DNS caches, or may have other issues with their DNS server. Or there can be DNS issues on specific machines that have to be flushed and updated. But that still does not mean the server is down. The fact that you can get there using Jim's method shows that it is not the site, Clifford. The site is working.

Did you click the link in my last post like I asked? What did it say?

We can argue this all day long but in the end, it is still not the server. If it was, NO ONE would be able to get to it. Trust me on this. I won't argue Detroit engine stuff with you. This is my area and I wish you would just tell me the error you are having so I can try to help you get it working. As I said before, just saying 'it isn't working' doesn't help any.
Title: Re: Eagles Board
Post by: Songman on November 17, 2011, 09:34:27 AM
I just installed a piece of software so that I will receive a text message any time the Eagle site goes down. That should help figure out where the issues are.
Title: Re: Eagles Board
Post by: Songman on November 17, 2011, 09:40:39 AM
Quote from: luvrbus on November 17, 2011, 09:23:56 AM
Why did we start having problems we never have in the past and it couldn't be just the IP some of us live 2000 miles from each other I can get there by using Jim's method and I have tried with 3 different computers and browsers no other site is a problem

good luck

Have you tried with a different ISP, Clifford? I would imagine that all three computers in your house are using the same ISP...

Click the link and tell me what it says so I can help figure something out.
Title: Re: Eagles Board
Post by: luvrbus on November 17, 2011, 09:46:23 AM
Frontier and AT&T it working good now on both I don't understand what going on

good luck
Title: Re: Eagles Board
Post by: Busted Knuckle on November 17, 2011, 10:02:36 AM
Quote from: Songman
A hacker in France found a backdoor into an SQL database that was hosted on the server and was able to knock the server out.

That's just like those Frenchies to invade from the back door.

Is it possible that Clifford or some of the others having problems were on the Eagles board when the Hacker invaded their back door and molested their computers too?

Just asking, as I know didiliy squat about computers! But I do know those sneaky Frenchies are known to be back door bandits.
;D  BK  ;D
Title: Re: Eagles Board
Post by: Songman on November 17, 2011, 10:41:56 AM
No, they didn't get into the Eagle site at all. All they did was a find a way in to knock the server out. It sounds like in both Clifford's case and Jim's that it is an ISP DN server issue since they can both get to the site through the proxy. The proxy is basically like they are bypassing their ISP and logging in from somewhere else.
Title: Re: Eagles Board
Post by: rusty on November 17, 2011, 11:46:53 AM
Through this whole ordeal I have always been able to get on the Eagle site. The first time that I could not get on it was last Saturday. That was the day the server was down. I am on the site from my work computer and the bosses computer at home. ( and that is the one we travel with. ) God knows that I send to much time on the site so I would be the first to see a problem. The good thing about that is if there is a problem I have no idea how to go about fixing it. This ISP and MPH and GOP stuff goes right over my head. All I know is when I turn the thing on it works and if it doesn't my 11 year old grandson will fix it. ( his Dad is a real geek so he had a good teacher) I really don't think it is the site or I would be the first to have problems.

Thank You Wayne
Title: Re: Eagles Board
Post by: Ericbsc on November 21, 2011, 05:27:16 PM
I guess its just me but I use to get on the board in the mornings but not evening. I GIVE UP!!!!!!!! >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( This is all I see now:

Network Error (dns_server_failure)


Your request could not be processed because an error occurred contacting the DNS server. 
The DNS server may be temporarily unavailable, or there could be a network problem. 

For assistance, contact your network support team. 
Title: Re: Eagles Board
Post by: Songman on November 22, 2011, 07:55:02 AM
Don't give up, Eric. Check the link I sent you. You said that when you clicked the link about it said that the site was up. The link I sent you shows that other Wildblue customers, specifically in the Carolinas, are having the same problems as you. In the link I sent you, a specific Wildblue customer is saying he is getting the exact same error you say you get, while others are saying they see the site fine. Like I keep saying, if anyone can see the site then the site is working. This guy called Wildblue and after some work and getting bumped up the ladder, they fixed their issue and he stopped getting the errors.

Look at the error you posted:
Network Error (dns_server_failure)

Your request could not be processed because an error occurred contacting the DNS server.
The DNS server may be temporarily unavailable, or there could be a network problem.

For assistance, contact your network support team


The DNS Server is your ISP. And it says "contact your network support team". That is also your ISP.

Here is the link I mentioned above for anyone who is interested:
http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r20207566-wildblue-users-in-SC-NC-or-VA-please-help (http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r20207566-wildblue-users-in-SC-NC-or-VA-please-help)
Title: Re: Eagles Board
Post by: rv_safetyman on November 22, 2011, 09:47:29 AM
I continue to have problems with HughesNet. Can get on maybe 1 time in 10.

If I can't get on I use a proxy server.

Today I can't get on using my iPhone and it has never failed. Did the isitme site and it said the site was up. Error message said Safari could not find server.

Jim
Title: Re: Eagles Board
Post by: luvrbus on November 22, 2011, 11:37:50 AM
I am still having problems also

good luck
Title: Re: Eagles Board
Post by: Songman on November 22, 2011, 12:13:29 PM
Clifford, did you try the link? Who is your ISP?
Title: Re: Eagles Board
Post by: john9861 on November 23, 2011, 04:50:11 PM
Well guys now that I can't get on the Eagle Board even with my desktop I'll use this opportunity to say HAPPY THANKSGIVING!!
Title: Re: Eagles Board
Post by: mak on November 23, 2011, 05:29:10 PM
Happy Thanksgiving back. Were always happy to have you hear!
Title: Re: Eagles Board
Post by: Dreamscape on November 23, 2011, 06:50:35 PM
I've been able to get on every day for the past two weeks or so. Not sure why y'all are having so many problems, must be the alignment of the planets or something! ;D

Title: Re: Eagles Board
Post by: luvrbus on November 24, 2011, 09:04:59 AM
Must be the moon Paul we are in Scottsdale different IP still having problems I was trying to get the newsletter I finally gave up mail me one lol

good luck
Title: Re: Eagles Board
Post by: akroyaleagle on November 24, 2011, 02:42:18 PM
I haven't had any problems getting on the board at all.
I do sometimes not see the avatars.
Title: Re: Eagles Board
Post by: Dreamscape on November 24, 2011, 08:13:34 PM
Clifford, Did you not get the newsletter? I can resend it, let me know. Snail Mail won't go out for a week or so.
Title: Re: Eagles Board
Post by: rv_safetyman on November 25, 2011, 04:40:44 AM
I still have problems with the HughesNet connection.  This morning even my proxy server cold not find the site for the first few times.

Clifford, the newsletter has not been posted on the site for the chapter members yet. 

Paul, did you send it to Dale? 

Jim
Title: Re: Eagles Board
Post by: luvrbus on November 25, 2011, 06:00:17 AM
No reason I could not find it LOL I got the news letter in my Email good job again Paul 


good luck
Title: Re: Eagles Board
Post by: Dreamscape on November 25, 2011, 08:20:37 AM
Jim,

Dale is sent the newsletter the same time as the rest of our club, he should have it.

Paul
Title: Re: Eagles Board
Post by: rv_safetyman on December 19, 2011, 09:29:49 PM
I thought I would bring this to the top again.  The folks who host the Eagles site are taking a look at the connection problem.  So far they say there is nothing on their end that would cause a problem.

I continue to have connection problems using both HughesNet and my iPhone on AT&T.  On the AT&T connection, logging on is successful about 80-90% of the time.  However on HughesNet I am only able to get on about 20% of the time.  I can always get on with my Verizon air card.  It is really a strange situation.

Eric had problems with Wildblue at one time. 

Is anyone else having problems?

If you want to test your connection, the Eagles site is:  http://www.eaglesinternational.net/ (http://www.eaglesinternational.net/)  Click on the forum tab.  You do not have to be registered to see the public forums.

Jim
Title: Re: Eagles Board
Post by: Ace on December 20, 2011, 04:23:16 AM
Works every time for me no matter what I use, laptop, iPhone, pc at best buy, etc!
Title: Re: Eagles Board
Post by: sunlovers on December 20, 2011, 04:47:35 AM
Jim,
I am still having problems. At home I can log in on the laptop but not the desktop at the same time, but 2 min. later I can log in on the desktop but not the laptop (service here is with FTC ). When at the wife's house at the beach I can't get on there either and that service is with TWC. Both places I may be able to get on every time every day but then I can't log in at all for several days at either location.
thanks,
Mike
67 EAGLE
Title: Re: Eagles Board
Post by: oldmansax on December 20, 2011, 05:48:53 AM
For those of you who are having DNS problems, try using OpenDNS's servers on your machines. I use them exclusively. They update everything quickly and block lots of known hacker IPs. You can also filter websites if you wish. Some of my customers need to keep their networks free of certain types of sites & OpenDNS does that for me. For example, the private schools I work for don't want pornography accessed. It's not 100% but close... and it's FREE!!   :)

You can find out more here:

WWW.opendns.com (http://www.opendns.com)

Disclaimer: I have no interest in them except being a satisfied customer.

TOM
Title: Re: Eagles Board
Post by: luvrbus on December 20, 2011, 05:54:29 AM
I still have problems some days it is fine next day takes 3 or 4 times,seems like if you log in each time it is not as much of a problem as the log in automatic feature

good luck
Title: Re: Eagles Board
Post by: rv_safetyman on December 20, 2011, 06:50:56 AM
Tom, thanks for the link.  I have been using a different proxy server (moonspeed) and it works most of the time.  The problem is that when I try to perform some moderator actions (e.g. add the word "sold" to an item title in the mall) the function will not always work.

This morning it is working fine on HughesNet. 

I would hate to try to chase down the issue, since it is sporadic.  I have tried to have HugheNet work on it their end with no positive results.  When they test, they can get on.  I have posted on the datastorm users group (mobile HughesNet) and several folks have tested their ability to get on.  Some folks have no problem but most have intermittent problems.

I keep thinking that time will cure the problem, but this has been going on for two months.

One other quick question:  has anyone tried to logon via a dial-up connection?  I have tried to make mental notes of when I have problems.  Both my HughesNet and AT&T have had some periods of really slow connections (AT&T is always a challenge, and HughesNet has some pretty large swings in speed).  That said, my Verizon air card is also slow (have to use antenna at the house) and it seems to get on.  Just grasping at straws here.

Jim
Title: Re: Eagles Board
Post by: Busted Knuckle on December 20, 2011, 07:18:21 AM
Quote from: Ace on December 20, 2011, 04:23:16 AM
Works every time for me no matter what I use, laptop, iPhone, pc at best buy, etc!

Must be cause yer special! LOL!

I don't get on the Eagles board or BNO much so I can't be of any reference on this matter.

However I can tell you that lately the speed of our Bellsouth DSL (AT&T) SUCKS!
I can fire up one of our buses that have WIFI and it's twice as fast as our DSL!

I carried a group from a Cadillac Dealer this past weekend and they were very impressed with the speed of our WIFI and could not believe it's the same system they sell for their cars. (autonet)

I don't know if it's related to this board or not but lately every I log in, I have some other sites pop up @ the same time. Up until last night I was convinced it was with this board.

But last night it was doing it no matter where I went.
;D  BK ;D
Title: Re: Eagles Board
Post by: sunlovers on December 20, 2011, 08:09:00 AM
Jim,
I meant to tell you this AM that the FTC system is DSL and the TWC system is broadband cable. Have been trying since 4:45 AM today on the FTC system and still can't get on.
Mike
Title: Re: Eagles Board
Post by: john9861 on December 20, 2011, 12:55:32 PM
I seem to have more problems around the weekend. First of the week I'm back in business. I'm on Wildblue just like Eric. Let me also add that I have no problems with any other site I visit period.
Title: Re: Eagles Board
Post by: Dreamscape on December 20, 2011, 04:29:37 PM
I haven't experienced any problems for several weeks now. At one time it was awful. So I'm not sure why some are experiencing difficulty and some aren't.
Title: Re: Eagles Board
Post by: sunlovers on December 21, 2011, 05:05:52 AM
I am at my sons house on two different computers on the same system as our house and still can't get on. I was able to get on one time last night at home but nothing since about 8:30 PM last night.
Mike
Title: Re: Eagles Board
Post by: luvrbus on December 21, 2011, 05:12:06 AM
Same here Mike even with a different server in Scottsdale,today it's perfect no problems with Firefox or IX


good luck
Title: Re: Eagles Board
Post by: Dreamscape on December 21, 2011, 09:18:15 AM
Mike and Clifford,

What error does your screen give you? Or is the connection just timing out. Please provide more detail other than just can't get on. That way maybe we can try to figure it out.

Get in contact with Dale, maybe he can provide more in depth information from the server as to what the potential problem is.

I was hoping that our site was back to normal. :'(
Title: Re: Eagles Board
Post by: sunlovers on December 21, 2011, 10:30:21 AM
Paul,
I will do that the next time I can't get on. Right now where I am Eagle board is working fine.
Title: Re: Eagles Board
Post by: sunlovers on December 22, 2011, 06:21:08 AM
Dale,
OK, here we go again. Time is 9:21 est. Have been trying on the desktop to get on the Eagle board since 4:30 AM, no luck. I am using Farmers Telephone Corp. DSL system. When logging on to the Eagle board I try to log in from a bookmark and have also done it from a search and this is what I get back in the window....Internet Explorer could not find www.eaglesinternational.net (http://www.eaglesinternational.net). The laptop is using the same system and this morning it went right on the Eagle board through a bookmark.
Go figure, yesterday same message on both computers.
Title: Re: Eagles Board
Post by: Dreamscape on December 22, 2011, 06:23:48 AM
Do you have Dale's email address? If not let me know and I'll send it to you.
Title: Re: Eagles Board
Post by: rv_safetyman on December 22, 2011, 06:38:49 AM
First, I think Dale and Jason (owner of the host) are following this thread.  I flagged it for them.  Dale is on the road and is probably not as much in contact as he would be at home.  Please don't write to him, he is aware of the issue and I am trying to compile the issues here.  If you get a failure notice that has **details**, then you can email the failure notice to me at my Eagles email account:

jim at eaglesinternational dot net

This morning I can't get on via HughesNet or iPhone AT&T.  Have not tired Verizon yet (real pain to disconnect/connect and the connection is slow since we have a very weak signal).

Tom, I finally got around to studying the OpenDNS offering and I am very impressed.  I spent about 3 hours last night getting it set up - only to find that it does not work with HughesNet.  When I do the testing, it says that I am going through a proxy.  I did a bunch of searching and there are a couple of schemes to disable what is called the "turbo page".  This is HughesNet connection to their DNS.  It is very hard to do that (most people give up).  Hughes forces that software, reportedly to better deal with the latency of the satellite communication.

In a few minutes, I will connect to Verizon to get on the Eagles site and do some playing with OpenDNS.

Jim
Title: Re: Eagles Board
Post by: luvrbus on December 22, 2011, 06:50:09 AM
I am not having any problems today but others are that don't post here 3 have called me about the on line voting for the club saying they cannot vote because the site will not come up for them
So I told them how to use Jim's moonshine or what ever the name and they are having a problem with it they get the same message as Mike and I do I think the Prevost and MCI guys are out to get us  lol


Good luck

Title: Re: Eagles Board
Post by: rv_safetyman on December 22, 2011, 07:13:27 AM
Hi Clifford.  The electronic voting for the chapter officers and bylaw modifications is not done on the website.  Dale emailed a link for the voting process to all active EI members (who have email addresses).  You have to get the email to vote electronically.

As Paul has said many times, emailing members is a real challenge.  When Paul tries to send the newsletter via email, he gets a bunch of "bounces" for folks who have not updated their email addresses.  In addition, many folks have some pretty powerful spam blockers and the emails tend to be blocked or put in a spam folder that they don't check.

Have these folks write to me:  jim at eaglesinternational dot net.

I would also like to have them write to me about their logon issues so that I can be the focal point for the problem.  I will compile them and get them to Dale/Jason.

Jim
Title: Re: Eagles Board
Post by: Songman on December 22, 2011, 07:17:51 AM
Hey guys,

As Jim says, we are looking into this. It has to be on a case by case basis so we do need specific error messages that you receive, along with internet service provider and any other information that you can give.

The site has had zero downtime since early November. That does not discount the problems people are having and we are trying to figure them out.

Clifford, if you have people having an issue with the voting system that just sort of adds to the 'individual problem' scenario because the voting system is not hosted on the Eagle server and has nothing in common with it. The EI ballot is hosted by a 3rd party company on their own server.
Title: Re: Eagles Board
Post by: luvrbus on December 22, 2011, 07:20:00 AM
I know that Jim and Dale but some want to print the form and me I have never gotten a ballot for the bylaws in a email  only for the officers what am I missing. 

update I found my problem with the ballot I tried using Dales link I don't have either ballot in my email

I know one other member that did not get a ballot Dale had to send him one  

good luck
Title: Re: Eagles Board
Post by: Ed Hackenbruch on December 22, 2011, 07:32:13 AM
i have tried the links about 6 times in the last 3 days or so and have gotten on in less than a second every time but once. That time it took about 2-3 seconds. :)  I am using a Mac with Firefox. When i get there i don't stay long as i don't want my computer to start rusting. ;D
Title: Re: Eagles Board
Post by: rv_safetyman on December 22, 2011, 07:37:07 AM
Sorry, Clifford, misunderstood what you were saying.  

As you point out, the newsletter (with the ballots) is posted on the website in the members only area.  They also should have gotten an email copy.  I don't think that Paul has snail mailed the newsletter to those who need to receive it that way (not sure about that).

One of the issues here may be that members who have not paid their dues for the past few years were purged.  Di spent a lot of time trying to reach those members to make sure they had an opportunity to become current.  I suspect the folks who contacted you are current, but that is even more reason for them to contact me.

I want to make sure we are talking about the same problem here as there may be two problems.  The major issue we are trying to address here is the failure to connect to the main page:  http://www.eaglesinternational.net/ (http://www.eaglesinternational.net/)

If they can connect with the main page, but can't login on the forum, that is a completely different problem.  If it is a forum login problem, they can contact me and I can reset their password so that they can login.  At the same time, I can check their user rights to make sure they have access to the proper forums (public vs chapter member).

Jim
Title: Re: Eagles Board
Post by: luvrbus on December 22, 2011, 07:45:18 AM
I went back on the previous post I know my problem I didn't get either ballot in a pm it doesn't let you vote from Dale's link

good luck
Title: Re: Eagles Board
Post by: rv_safetyman on December 22, 2011, 08:04:22 AM
Wow, just tried again with HugheNet and got on.  This is pretty typical.  For those that can't get on, let me know and also keep trying.

What amazes me is that we have over 26 inches of snow this morning (still snowing) and the dish has to have a pretty good layer of snow!!!

Jim
Title: Re: Eagles Board
Post by: Dreamscape on December 22, 2011, 08:13:11 AM
I sent out the latest Newsletter to all of our members and both ballots with instructions on who to send them to. I also sent out via snail mail to 23 members. I did receive fewer bounce backs than the previous newsletter that was sent out in August. It's getting better. As I receive new email addresses from our members, I pass that on to Becky so she can make the appropriate changes on the roster.

We will always have some problems as folk change their information, then forget to tell us. It's still much easier, faster and much cheaper than snail mail.
Title: Re: Eagles Board
Post by: Songman on December 22, 2011, 11:30:09 AM
What link is that, Clifford? The only link I have ever posted was a sample ballot to show the Board how it would look. No one can vote there. Each e-mail address  has a specific ballot. That ensures that no one can vote more than one accidentally.

As for not receiving the e-mailed ballot, I used the list from the most current roster I got from Paul and Becky. Tell me what e-mail address you have listed and I will double check it. I just looked through the list and you and Sonja both should have received a ballot even though you should only use one since they are set up for couples. Yours went to your gmail address and Sonja's went to her hotmail address. That is what is shown on the roster.
Title: Re: Eagles Board
Post by: luvrbus on December 25, 2011, 07:06:31 AM
Hey guys I found out if I don't log out the board works fine logging in gives me the problem

good luck
Title: Re: Eagles Board
Post by: Ericbsc on December 28, 2011, 06:48:04 AM
It must be just me!!! I get this message only on the eagle board. Sometimes I can't get on in the morning, some times evening. I tried Cliffords trick with no log in. That sosen't work either!!!!! WHAT TO DO?????

Network Error (dns_server_failure)


Your request could not be processed because an error occurred contacting the DNS server. 
The DNS server may be temporarily unavailable, or there could be a network problem. 

For assistance, contact your network support team. 
Title: Re: Eagles Board
Post by: john9861 on December 28, 2011, 07:05:02 AM
I was surprised within the last week I got the same message when trying to get on the BCM board.

Network Error (dns_server_failure)


Your request could not be processed because an error occurred contacting the DNS server. 
The DNS server may be temporarily unavailable, or there could be a network problem. 

For assistance, contact your network support team. 

The saga continues...
Title: Re: Eagles Board
Post by: rv_safetyman on February 12, 2012, 01:56:06 PM
I thought I would bring this thread back to the top and see if folks are still having problems *connecting* to eaglesinternational.net.  Failing to connect gives you a DNS error or "can't find server" error.

The subject came up again today on the eaglesinternational.net site:

http://www.eaglesinternational.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=2767 (http://www.eaglesinternational.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=2767)

Personally, I have a failure to connect almost every day.  Even my proxy server has occasional problems connecting.  Same is true with my AT&T iPhone.  No problem with my Verizon air card (unfortunately, we have a very poor signal at the house).

Since folks having problems might not be able to see that thread, or relate their problems, I decided to "reactivate" this thread.

Jim

Title: Re: Eagles Board
Post by: FloridaCliff on February 12, 2012, 02:11:25 PM
Jim,

Since we don't have an Eagle I seldom go there, but I just tried and received the no server on the first attempt, OK on the second.

FYI,

Cliff
Title: Re: Eagles Board
Post by: rv_safetyman on February 12, 2012, 02:17:40 PM
Cliff, thanks for checking.

If others are willing to try, and if you have a problem, let us know who provides your internet service.  Typically that will be the folks that provide your DSL, cable, fixed wireless, or satellite (the good folks who send you a bill each month)  ;D

If you have slow connection, it is normal to get a DNS failure once in a while.  On good connections it is pretty rare unless there is a DNS problem.

Jim
Title: Re: Eagles Board
Post by: robertglines1 on February 12, 2012, 02:22:56 PM
using firefox: straight thru  checked out oct dates for Branson    Bob  Verizon
Title: Re: Eagles Board
Post by: RJ on February 12, 2012, 02:29:02 PM
Jim -

Using FireFox with Comcast/Xfinity as the provider, no problems accessing the forum using the link you provided earlier.

Futzing around with the URL a little took me to the EI home page w/o any problems, either.

Always have disliked intermittent electrical gremlins!

FWIW & HTH. . .

;)
Title: Re: Eagles Board
Post by: Van on February 12, 2012, 02:45:55 PM
Visiting N.Y.C. Today, no problems logging in from the canyon s of Manhattan, other than frozen fingers, even with the link you provided Jim. Sprint/Android
Title: Re: Eagles Board
Post by: rv_safetyman on February 12, 2012, 02:56:44 PM
Thanks guys.  I am using a library wireless connection and no problem.

The main providers that seem to have a problem are the two satellite providers (HughesNet and Wild Blue) and AT&T.  Again, all of those are intermittent problems.  On my HughesNet, I can get on maybe 10-20% of time, using HughesNet and a proxy about 60-70% and AT&T about 70%.

If anyone using a satellite system can do a bit of testing, it would be great:

http://www.eaglesinternational.net/forum/ (http://www.eaglesinternational.net/forum/)

Jim
Title: Re: Eagles Board
Post by: Ed Hackenbruch on February 12, 2012, 04:24:11 PM
 Mac computer, Firefox, Verizon aircard, less than 2 seconds to connect from Yuma.   ;D
Title: Re: Eagles Board
Post by: luvrbus on February 12, 2012, 04:44:20 PM
I got on this morning with no problems it's a no now and has been for the last week,guess I'll go hang with Prevost and MCI guys not a problem on those 

good luck
Title: Re: Eagles Board
Post by: Dreamscape on February 12, 2012, 05:33:00 PM
Has been fast to get on for several weeks since the last round. Not sure why a few are having problems.
Title: Re: Eagles Board
Post by: luvrbus on February 12, 2012, 05:39:16 PM
I rebooted the wireless router and it is working great now ? could have been my problem but no other site was a problem lol
Title: Re: Eagles Board
Post by: Ed Brenner on February 13, 2012, 05:53:17 AM
Clifford,
It's a hint quit looking at those other brands, and buy you a real bus again !!!!
Or at least part ownership, I'll let you put in an engine of your choice and fuel,
and I will be your chauffeur !!!!  ;D ;D ;D
ED
Title: Re: Eagles Board
Post by: uncle ned on February 13, 2012, 08:21:56 AM

I have no trouble getting on the eagles board.  Maybe it is easier on us other brand of bus owners. it knows how they make us park over in the corner at eagle rallies. lol lol

uncle Ned
Title: Re: Eagles Board
Post by: Ed Brenner on February 13, 2012, 10:30:16 AM
Ned,
Your Bus is definitely an old "Hound" . It was just marking its spot under that tree !!  ;D ;D
ED
Title: Re: Eagles Board
Post by: Ericbsc on February 13, 2012, 02:58:23 PM
Always a crap shoot when I try to get on. See this 50-60 percent of the time.



Network Error (dns_server_failure)


Your request could not be processed because an error occurred contacting the DNS server. 
The DNS server may be temporarily unavailable, or there could be a network problem. 

For assistance, contact your network support team. 


Only have a problem with the eagle board. All else work fine. I have just given up trying to fix it. If I get on fine, if not wait till tommorrow!!
Title: Re: Eagles Board
Post by: white-eagle on February 13, 2012, 07:22:18 PM
I just tried it and got the infamous dns issue.  hit reload and it came up fine.  We have the notoriously slow on occasion "hughesnet".