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Title: Ummm, the throne has a problem.
Post by: John316 on February 11, 2010, 04:33:03 PM
Well folks, it happened.

We have a bit of an issue. We have a Dometic Sealand, toilet. We are loosing water out of the bowl. Water (best case), is leaking down the outside of the pipe that drops straight down into the tank. So we are getting water (again, best case), down the outside of the pipe, to the top of the tank. There the water sits...and I won't go into more details ;).

So anybody know what is going on?

Thanks.

God bless,

John
Title: Re: Ummm, the throne has a problem.
Post by: FloridaCliff on February 11, 2010, 04:56:54 PM
John,

Just a WAG, but you really need to know WHAT it is..... :P

If its stinky, there is no pressure on IT, so it must be leaking when flushed, if so it is probably the seal between the toilet and the flange.

You can pick up a seal at any hardware store.

If IT is not stinky and just water, then you will have to track it down.

Cliff
Title: Re: Ummm, the throne has a problem.
Post by: Eagle Andy on February 11, 2010, 05:01:33 PM
John  Theres a valve in the peddle assembly that can get a hair line crack , if it's the one iam thinking of anyway just a thought .
Title: Re: Ummm, the throne has a problem.
Post by: Cary and Don on February 11, 2010, 05:23:49 PM
We had our toilet start leaking like that.  It turned out the plastic flange that bolted to the floor had broke.  It let the toilet rock just enough to leak like a sieve.

Don and Cary
GMC4107
Neoplan AN340
Title: Re: Ummm, the throne has a problem.
Post by: Singing Land Cruiser on February 11, 2010, 06:19:10 PM
What kind of gasket did you use? rubber, plastic, wax or felt?
and do you have a presure regulator?  ;D M&C
Title: Re: Ummm, the throne has a problem.
Post by: John316 on February 11, 2010, 06:45:31 PM
Thanks for the replies, guys.

We are going to pick up another felt gasket (it is felt on there now), another flange, and another seal for the ball valve.

I am thinking we are dealing with two separate issues. Both issues involve non-pressurized water. The first issue is the seal on the ball valve. After that, the next issue is that either the flange seal is bad (probable), or  somehow the pipe that mates to the bottom of the flange is leaking. We will see what it is...

Thanks again for your help.

God bless,

John
Title: Re: Ummm, the throne has a problem.
Post by: Eagle Andy on February 11, 2010, 06:49:29 PM
Good luck John , been there done that  ;D
Title: Re: Ummm, the throne has a problem.
Post by: fe2_o3 on February 11, 2010, 07:47:48 PM
  I believe you have two separate problems also.
  We are dealing with the empty bowl syndrome too. Ours is a Mayfield, not made for years. But some Sealand parts will work.
  If we separate the porcelain bowl from the stand, the support, gasket and seal are visible.EEwww. Most are available at an RV supply.
How ever if the ball is damaged, in our case, it is part of the stand and is replaced as such. The only problem I find with empty bowl syndrome is water use when dry camping...Good luck....Cable
Title: Re: Ummm, the throne has a problem.
Post by: bottomacher on February 12, 2010, 05:47:01 AM
While we're on the subject, can anyone say what is the best flange seal? My Sealand was furnished with a rubber one, but wax doesn't wear out, dry out, or become brittle. I'm about two weeks away from installing it, and I really don't want to have a smelly leak.
Title: Re: Ummm, the throne has a problem.
Post by: JackConrad on February 12, 2010, 12:03:31 PM
Our Thetford came with a foam seal, but used a wax ring.  I have never had a leak (yet) with a wax ring.  Jack
Title: Re: Ummm, the throne has a problem.
Post by: John316 on February 12, 2010, 12:14:29 PM
Well folks, we figured out what it was. The pipe is cracked that goes from the flange to the tank. So we fixed that problem.

Not to mention, I believe we have a fresh water leak...somewhere...but we are almost home, and we can fix it there. I want to redo our water bay anyways.

So thank you everybody for your help.

God bless,

John

Title: Re: Ummm, the throne has a problem.
Post by: FloridaCliff on February 12, 2010, 03:22:19 PM
Quote from: bottomacher on February 12, 2010, 05:47:01 AM
While we're on the subject, can anyone say what is the best flange seal? My Sealand was furnished with a rubber one, but wax doesn't wear out, dry out, or become brittle. I'm about two weeks away from installing it, and I really don't want to have a smelly leak.

I am a wax fan, never had one fail in any application.

Cliff
Title: Re: Ummm, the throne has a problem.
Post by: FloridaCliff on February 12, 2010, 03:24:48 PM
Quote from: John316 on February 12, 2010, 12:14:29 PM
Well folks, we figured out what it was. The pipe is cracked that goes from the flange to the tank. So we fixed that problem.

Not to mention, I believe we have a fresh water leak...somewhere...but we are almost home, and we can fix it there. I want to redo our water bay anyways.

So thank you everybody for your help.

God bless,

John



John,

Good deal on finding out what was the culprit.

Now to figure out what caused it and make it better..... :o

Cliff
Title: Re: Ummm, the throne has a problem.
Post by: philiptompkjns on February 12, 2010, 05:29:24 PM
maybe something shifted and cracked when you went to full braking the other day.
Title: Re: Ummm, the throne has a problem.
Post by: John316 on February 12, 2010, 08:43:22 PM
Yup, Phil, I think we figured out what needs to be fixed. We are going to add a fernco into the mix. A little rubber should solve the problem.

God bless,

John