Fuel Monitor

[Blacksheep]

OK you bus attics, here's a question for you.

I'm looking for a fuel monitor that is called something like "Pro Driver" or "Diesel Pro" or something in along those lines.

It's a fuel monitor that is VERY similar to a Pro-Link that records trip data such as rpm, fuel used, mph, mpg, hrs. etc. The only difference from a Pro-Link and this one I'm searching for is, it is driver accessible while the truck/coach is being driven, where the Pro-link is not! It mounts on the dash and monitors how much fuel is being used in REAL Time!

Anyone heard of such a thing and if so, what is it called and where can it be found?

Thanks
Ace... the one that is going NOWHERE!

[Sojourner]

http://www.mpgmeters.com/mpg-meters/

Anyone out there using one or whatever?

Sojourn for Christ, Gerald

[Dallas]

Ace, How about checking out the Silverleaf monitoring systems...

http://www.silverleafelectronics.com/

Dallas

[luvrbus]

How about Cruz Pro I don't have a link but have seen them, Jim Shepherd is a dealer for Siverleaf fwiw

[Songman]

Jim Shepherd handles SilverLeaf stuff and they have something new listed on their site that looks like what you are looking for and the price is pretty good too.

http://www.rvsafetysystems.com/Silverleaf.htm

[makemineatwostroke]

Any marine dealer will have what you want Flo-scan, Navcom,flight products etc. Check with Fleet Products they have some low cost ones      have a great evening

[Blacksheep]

Thanks guys but I found the information I was looking for.

PRO DRIVER
ProDriver is a dashboard-mounted graphic display that monitors and records operational data transmitted by Detroit Diesel DDEC and other electronically controlled engines that comply with the latest standard for broadcasting data on the SAE diagnostic data link.

ProDriver accurately documents: Current instantaneous and average MPG, Trip time, miles, fuel, MPG, average speed, Cruise time, percentage, miles, fuel, MPG, Top gear miles, fuel, MPG, time and percentage, Over-rev time and percentage, Maximum speed and RPM, Automated oil change interval tracking

Why should you want ProDriver? The bottom line is ProDriver promotes operating cost reduction through increased fuel economy, improved driver performance and reduced maintenance expense.

[white-eagle]

ace, i can have my fuel monitor talk to your potential fuel monitor about how she does it.  then you'll have a head slap bald spot like i do   .  it's a lot cheaper than the monitor these other guys are suggesting.

[Blacksheep]

Tom uhh, your not getting it are you? The whole idea of me getting an "electronic" monitor is because I'm tired of being asked, "how fast are you going" and "slow down", and "your wasting fuel you know" and the best one, " f you don't listen, Your buying the next fill up".

I mean a man can only take so much while driving! Don't you think!

And as far as the bald spot goes? I already have that due to my own actions of pulling it out!

Ace

[Blacksheep]

A friend of mine sent me this information as well on this unit!

DETROIT, March 17 Detroit Diesel Corporation
(DDC) announced the shipment of the 60,000 Pro Driver unit.  Pro Driver is a
dash-mounted display which gives drivers real time information about miles per
gallon, idle time, fuel used at idle and other facts which can help improve
fuel economy.  Approximately 10% of all Series 60 powered trucks are now
equipped with Pro Driver.
    "Pro Driver continues to grow in popularity.  Sales in January 2000 were
71% higher than January 1999.  Pro Driver is easy to use and it's the only
sure way for a driver to know his current miles per gallon.  Many fleets have
incentive plans for drivers based on fuel economy, and Pro Driver makes it
easy for drivers to see how they are doing.  In addition, drivers can try
different techniques such as varying truck speed, shifting gears or using
cruise control, and instantly see the effect on miles per gallon," said Tom
Diefenbaker, Director Electronic Products, of DDC.
    Pro Driver is available from all major North American truck OEM's.  The
Pro Driver display is easily programmed by the driver for Spanish, English or
French language alternatives.
    In addition to the Pro Driver dash-mounted display, DDC also offers Pro
Driver Reports software.  Pro Driver Reports allow vehicle and engine
performance data to be easily downloaded for analysis.  Pro Driver Reports
quickly identifies the driving habits of the most fuel efficient drivers.  The
reports also make it easy to demonstrate the most fuel efficient driving
techniques to newer drivers.
    Pro Driver and Pro Driver Reports are available only from Detroit Diesel
Corporation and its authorized distributors.
    Detroit Diesel Corporation is engaged in the design, manufacture, sale and
service of heavy-duty diesel and alternative fuel engines, automotive diesel
engines and engine-related products.  The company offers a complete line of
diesel engines from 22 to 10,000 horsepower for the on-highway, off-road and
automotive markets.  Detroit Diesel services these markets directly and
through a worldwide network of more than 2,800 authorized distributor and
dealer locations.  DDC is a QS-9000 certified company.
    Detroit Diesel's major shareholder is Penske Corporation, a closely-held
diversified transportation services company whose operations include Penske
Truck Leasing Company, Diesel Technology Company, Penske Automotive Group,
Inc., Penske Auto Centers, Inc., and Penske Capital Partners, L.L.C.  Penske
Corporation and its subsidiaries manage business with annual revenues
exceeding $10 billion and employ more than 33,000 people around the world.
    Detroit Diesel's World Wide Web address is http://www.detroitdiesel.com .

[makemineatwostroke]

Ace, I don't think the ProDriver will work on any DDEC less than IV without changes made I know it doesn't work on DDEC 11   have a great evening

[Blacksheep]

Yea that's what I'm trying to find out although I have a IV in mine I might get lucky!

Ace

[Busted Knuckle]

Ace I used to have a Frieghtliner that had a 60 Series DDEC III in it and it had the ProDriver in it from the factory in the dash! I'll bet $ you can find one in an old salvaged truck that had/has a DDEC III or IV in it!  FWIW   BK 

OH yeah by the way it'll also track high speed, cruise on/off time, idle time, and how long HIGH SPEED was maintained! (don't ask me how I found out about this!)

[rv_safetyman]

Ace.  I am not sure how much the Pro Driver costs, but some of my customers comment that it is hard to read when you are going down the road.

The SilverLeaf VMSpc is $395.  Obviously, you need a laptop. 

Both SilverLeaf and Pro Driver read their information from the data port and both present the same basic engine information.  They also do calculations such as rolling MPG, distance to empty, etc.  I am not sure about the Pro Driver, but the SilverLeaf captures and stores any fault code.  The engine ECM does not store all fault codes (I believe it does not store very short duration, non critical codes).  SilverLeaf captures all codes and stores them in a file.  That can be a good tool if you develop short intermittent faults.

I mount my computer behind be on a cabinet and have an overhead monitor that I can easily see.  I use about 1/3 of the screen for the engine info and 2/3 for the GPS/mapping program (see photo of my screen at:  http://www.rvsafetysystems.com/Silverleaf.htm).  Behind the Map, I have an additional two odometers (you can create as many as you want).  I use four:  daily, total trip, total engine, and miles since last fuel stop.

The latter odometer is my fuel gauge.  It is very accurate (I pull my fuel for generator and AquaHot from a separate tank).  If it says I have used 90 gallons, my fill will be within a gallon or two depending on foaming and flow rate of the pump.

Jim

[WEC4104]

OK you bus attics, here's a question for you. ...

I think you probably meant bus addicts.  An attic is something that that collects a bunch of unneeded stuff and accummulates this junk until it is eventually thrown out.  Hmmmm.  Okay, you did refer to us by the right name.