Fuel costs

[Stan]

I guess I owe an apology to a lot of board members for making statements that so upset them. Especially to Hightechredneck who worked for a church owned cookie company. I would sincerely hope that such a companies motives would be different than the conventional shareholder owned company.

I stopped posting because there is such a litany of incorrect information that it would take pages just to provide the links to all the financial statements and legislation to refute it. Fifty years ago I was told that the glory days of capitalism were past and there was no more opportunity for the little guy to make it big.  There are more millionaires and billionaires than ever before but the same large number of people who think there is no opportunity.

For those who aren't familiar with my background - Thirty six years ago my wife suffered a cerebral hemorrhage and I had the choice of putting her into an institution and letting the government care for her or selling my business and becoming a full time care giver. I chose the latter course and with a lot of therapy we have had a pretty good life, without government assistance. For twenty one years we full timed in bus conversions as the best choice for her, following the sun so that she could get outside. We would still be doing that if my vision problems hadn't forced the sale of the bus.

[Sojourner]

Stan...I admire you for taking your stands to give your wife all your supports and your heart to give what you have and able. It take a great gentleman who is strong to keep a marriage commitment of for better or worse on earth. Many men thinks worse is unbearable, however this only last a zap of time spend living here on earth but for those that know the Savior and repended will spend eternity in heaven. Isn't that awesome! No pains and no troubles!

My e-mail is in profile and would like to hear from you.

Sojourn for Christ, Jerry

[jackhartjr]

Stan, I commend you!  I volunteered for the Multiple Sclerosis Society (MS) for years. Turns out that the instance of men leavig women when finding out they have MS is extreamly high.  I would suspect the same for other debilitating disabilities.
Again, I comend you for sticking to the vows!

Jerry said, "for those that know the Savior and repended will spend eternity in heaven. Isn't that awesome! No pains and no troubles!"
When I SCUBA dive I look at the beauty around me and think, if this does not even touch what Heaven will be...WOW!

Jack

[cody]

Kind of getting away from the topic here but I'll take a moment to give my wife credit, when I was diagnosed with parkinsons and had to retire, I had to leave a state job that paid in the 6 figures for an unknown future. She has stood by me thru out the bad days and helped me enjoy the good days, she has taken the time to wait for me when I couldn't keep up with her in a store, she smiled patiently when I told her I wanted to buy a bus and we'd go off and see America, then she saw what I dragged home and didn't slap me silly, tho I know she would have prefered something that at least had a floor in it lol.  Life is good lol.

[HighTechRedneck]

I guess I owe an apology to a lot of board members for making statements that so upset them. Especially to Hightechredneck who worked for a church owned cookie company. I would sincerely hope that such a companies motives would be different than the conventional shareholder owned company.

Stan, no apology needed, you didn't offend me. I simply chose to point out that greed isn't required for success in a free market economy.  And you are right, a truly Christian company should be visibly different in its operations.  There are others that do so to varying degrees.  (i.e. Voortman's Cookies and Chick-Fil-A)

BTW, contrary to popular belief, the SDA church doesn't own McKee.  The McKee family owns it fully and makes all decisions.  Sometimes those decisions are not in lock step with what the church wants (i.e. their sponsorship of a car in NASCAR).  But they are deeply committed to their beliefs.  While I am not SDA, (Baptist myself) I deeply respect their committment to their faith and the way they run their business according to their beliefs.

For those who aren't familiar with my background - Thirty six years ago my wife suffered a cerebral hemorrhage and I had the choice of putting her into an institution and letting the government care for her or selling my business and becoming a full time care giver. I chose the latter course and with a lot of therapy we have had a pretty good life, without government assistance. For twenty one years we full timed in bus conversions as the best choice for her, following the sun so that she could get outside. We would still be doing that if my vision problems hadn't forced the sale of the bus.

You have my utmost respect sir.  I am doing about the same thing for my mother.  We full time in my bus and I take care of her.  It has been very good for her condition and I have enjoyed it a lot.

[jackhartjr]

HighTechRedNeck...Low TechRedNeck here, you said..."Sometimes those decisions are not in lock step with what the church wants (i.e. their sponsorship of a car in NASCAR)."  Not being argumentative here...thought I would relay something most folks don't know;
While not a Seventh Day Adventist I do know that the agreement with the Woods Brothers is that from Sundown Friday to Sundown Sat, they have to cover anything that says McKeee or Little Deddie.  That includes the hauler.
That's part of the reason for the Air Force and other assciate sponsors.

I still get a kick out of Chick-fil-A, years ago the malls told them they would have to open on Sundays, Mr. Cathy said no...if they had to move from the mall, that would be OK...he wasn't going to open on Sundays.  And didn't!

Jack

[jackhartjr]

Stan, you said, "I guess I owe an apology to a lot of board members for making statements that so upset them"

No apology needed here, we all have our opinions and thank goodness we can say them here.  If we were all alike think how boring it would be!

Jack

[Stan]

Until yesterday I had never heard of Mckee Foods so I did what every computer user does and googled McKee. This is what Wikipeedia  says and I have no other corporate information because private companies don't make much news in the financial press. On re-reading this article it does not say 'owned by' but rather that it is 'run by' ...... A rather unusual term when referring to a business.

McKee Foods Corporation is a privately held United States company headquartered in Collegedale, Tennessee. McKee Foods is run by members of the Seventh-day Adventist Church. Because advertising is considered a form of business, and they believe that they should not do business on their day of rest, the company chooses to have the NASCAR team it sponsors cover up all logos from sundown Friday to sundown Saturday.

[HighTechRedneck]

That is actually the McKee family's ruling on all advertising.  A friend of mine is the Marketing Manager responsible for getting McKee into the NASCAR sponsorship.  That is the stipulation that was made from the beginning by the family.

Wikipedia is a great tool.  Sometimes verbage can cause confusion.  I can assure everyone, McKee is owned by the McKee family, with the shares held by many members of the family.  O.D. McKee founded it.  His sons Ellsworth and Jack came to head it up later.  Ellsworth and Jack are still involved, but now day to day leadership is into the third generation with Mike, Debbie (yup, the original "Little Debbie"), Rusty and Chris holding key leadership positions.

[luvrbus]

Stan, I know this off topic but I admire and respect very few men on this earth but what you and Sonnie Gray have sacrificed for your wife's you both have all I can give. Short story about Sonnie he was called into the teacher office about his grandson and he thought the worse, but the teacher told him that they had quiz on who was the most respected man they knew his grandson answer was it's my grandpa for the way he takes care of my grandma

[JohnEd]

Well!   I'll have you know that I disagree with nearly EVERYTHING and EVERYONE in this thread.  Am I spelling that right?

Amazing!

[Stan]

When I posted the story about my wife, I wasn't looking for any sympathy or attaboys. I just wanted to show what a hardhearted SOB I really am. Some of the comments were quite personal and I didn't want to say anymore until things cooled down.

Stan, there is a lot I could say to your comments...however I would hope that if we met somewhere out here we would be friends.  Then again...with your views...I doubt it would be for long.  What you are saying is basically this.  If you can't fight 'em...join 'em.  Or maybe this...if you don't like being the rapee...be the raper.

Incidentally, in all my traveling, I always stayed at private campgrounds. I support the free enterprise system.

[makemineatwostroke]

I don't apologize to people for the stock I own in a couple of the major oil Co's just a good investment on your part Stan.I spent 13 years in Venezuela for Stewart and Stevenson and I know people look at the 11 cents a gal for fuel and say wow aren't those people lucky but the problem with it you need a car and the 11 cents to buy it with, that hundreds of thousands don't have living there. 

[luvrbus]

Can one of you guys answer a question for me if oil is a 100 dollars a barrel (42 gals) and a barrel will make 19.5 gallons of gasoline thats 5.00 dollars a gallon just for the oil how can we buy it for 3+ dollars or does this mean that it will be 6 or 7 dollars in a week or two.I need help on this the math is not right

[skipn]

The other 22.5 gals are used to make other things like road tar, plastics etc.

  It is like the old way of the west no part of the animal goes to waste


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