Greyhound Accident

[Stan]

Greyhound rolled a bus this morning in Alberta with three fatalities. See story


http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNews/20071106/bus_rollover_071106/20071106?hub=TopStories


I fixed the link
Nick-

[Nick Badame Refrig/ACC]

Here are the pics.

Nick-

[bobofthenorth]

3 people killed in this and a fairly new driver - I'm gonna take a WAG and say that superdog's trailer started wagging the dog on a really icy road.  BTDT but never in a bus - it ain't no fun.  I said to my bride at noon today that I'm really glad we've reached the stage in our travels where we don't HAVE to go if the conditions aren't 100%.

[buswarrior]

Yup, and "early Tuesday morning"...how early?

When did the shift start? What was he doing on Monday, on or off the job?

Cruise engaged at too high a speed for conditions?

Jake brake or retarder dialed on strong?....lifted throttle when it went a little funny, and away she goes...?

3 dead, every little detail will be exposed for the legal mess to follow.

Not a pretty situation to find oneself in.

happy coaching!
buswarrior

[Lee Bradley]

Saw a number of those bus trailer combinations on the highway this summer, driving from Seattle to Calgary on Highway 1 and 5. The other thing that can get you in trouble is having that trailer loaded a little tail heavy.

[Hi yo silver]

You're right, Lee.  I have found that loading with appropriate tongue weight and sway control device makes it more pleasurable and safer to tow a trailer.
Dennis

[TomC]

If they all had seat belts on none would have been ejected, and most likely none would have died.  Good LUck, TomC

[RJ]

Those cargo trailers GLC tow aren't heavy at all - those of you towing a Grand Cherokee or a full-size pickup, Suburban, etc. are pulling more weight.  Remember, this is Greyhound Package Express, not Yellow Freight Lines.  GL PE carries the same kind of thing UPS does.

That coach was a DL102 - a 45-footer - loaded with 28 passengers, their luggage and the driver.  For all practical purposes, the bus doesn't even know the trailer's back there, so chances of the trailer causing the accident are slim.  (There's probably more weight on the tag axle of that coach than the GVW rating of the trailer!)

Buswarrior asks the right questions, which will lead to the real cause.  'Til then, everything else is pure speculation.

Investigating bus accidents is not pleasant. . . BTDT   

[gumpy]

I agree with Russ. That trailer would be next to impossible to load "tail heavy", and bus wouldn't even know it's back there even if it were packed to the roof!

This was probably caused by driver error, possibly with road conditions contributing (says the bus skidded on and icy highway in the article).

[lostagain]

Driving too fast!!

And yes, seat belts would've kept the passengers in their seats. Look at how well the bus withstood the roll-over.

[Busted Knuckle]

Anybody in Canada looking for a cheap 45' shell? Already for a roof raise and all!

[buswarrior]

more info.

Accident happened around 6:15am.

the bus was scheduled to leave Edmonton at midnight and arrive in Grande Prairie at 5:30, so delayed somewhere, somehow.

Accident was about 30 miles/50 km from end of trip.

Classic Greyhound accident. Always involves an overnight driver late in the shift.

happy coaching!
buswarrior

[scottie]

Anybody in Canada looking for a cheap 45' shell? Already for a roof raise and all!

hi busted knuckle
where,in canada,how much,does it run etc etc

[scottie]

ops
SORRY
i just caught on,little to fast on the post button....okay ill be quite and go hide in the corner
scottie