Help with a "Home Made" Toll Window

[Dave Siegel]

We have a PD3751 "Silversides" and I want to disable the drivers window to reduce air noise. I realize that I still need access to toll booths, etc. through a small portal. I bought a factory made toll window from an older MCI and it looks terrible. Too big, and too gaulky. I really don't want to spoil the outside appearance of of bus so I thought of a way that it could be possible.

The driver's window is a slanted "D" shape and sits in a frame that rolls up and down. I was thinking that I could have a small section cut out of the "D" portion of the glass then fasten a clear plastic hinge to the fixed and bottom swinging part and the toll window could swing in and up. I could use some type of sliding pin to lock the window down when not needed.

Any ideas? Any idea where I might get some of this clear plastic hinge? I tried a golf cart shop but down here they only want to sell golf carts not parts.

Dave Siegel

[kyle4501]

. . . .The driver's window is a slanted "D" shape and sits in a frame that rolls up and down.  . . . .
Any ideas? . . . .
Dave Siegel

Oh how wonderful it would be to have a driver's window that rolls up & down in my scenic. My only option is a vertical hinged window
(- Does anyone have a line on where I could get the parts?)

Sorry, I have no solutions, but I'll offer this idea:

Where is the noise coming from? Can you replace the felts & keep it stock? Seems a shame to loose that cool feature.

[Dreamscape]

Could you post a picture so we can see what it is you are talking about? Have you tried to wheather strip the area in question. I know you have an older coach, but something must be able to work.
I would not want to alter the outside of your coach either, they are way to cool.

Good Luck,

Paul

Dreamscape

[Dave Siegel]

I will try to take a picture of the existing window, and create a jpg of what I want to do. I should have thought of that first.

By the way Kyle, the window does not draw any air in what so ever. As a matter of fact if I have the window open and turn the windshield fans on the cool breeze is sucked right out the drivers window. There are no felts available and the only other option I can think of is to create a electric lift for that window, but water and air would still come in around the edges.

Dave

[kyle4501]

I will try to take a picture of the existing window, and create a jpg of what I want to do. I should have thought of that first.

By the way Kyle, the window does not draw any air in what so ever. As a matter of fact if I have the window open and turn the windshield fans on the cool breeze is sucked right out the drivers window. There are no felts available and the only other option I can think of is to create a electric lift for that window, but water and air would still come in around the edges.

Dave

I'd like a roll up/down side window so I could use it at the drive thru! 

I thought JC Whitney would have had something to seal the window for sure! I didn't figgure that area to provide fresh air due to it being in a low pressure area. The original window on the 4501's acted as a scoop to catch air (& bugs) when opened.

As for the elec window lift, what do the hot rodders use for old cars?
Chrysler used a nylon rack & pinion in lots of cars. The nylon rack was flexible & rode in a track. cheap, but simple. I'm sure seals are out there that could work, but it may be more trouble than its worth.

Good luck.

[tekebird]

kyle, originally the Scenic 04 and early 06 windows did not catch bugs...because they had a screen.

Both sides

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[kyle4501]

kyle, originally the Scenic 04 and early 06 windows did not catch bugs...because they had a screen.

Both sides

If they didn't catch bugs, they wouldn't have needed the screens. 

[gus]

I love those roll up windows, wish I had one on my 4104. If I did I would find some way to make it stop leaking or just put a drain at the bottom using a thin sheet of plastic like in auto doors.

[DrivingMissLazy]

I will try to take a picture of the existing window, and create a jpg of what I want to do. I should have thought of that first.

By the way Kyle, the window does not draw any air in what so ever. As a matter of fact if I have the window open and turn the windshield fans on the cool breeze is sucked right out the drivers window. There are no felts available and the only other option I can think of is to create a electric lift for that window, but water and air would still come in around the edges.

Dave

Dave, I have never seen one of those windows that would draw air in. They all suck the cool air out. There is a low pressure area beside the bus which sucks the air out.
Richard

[tekebird]

I sold a Silversides a few years ago and recall looking at the Window channel/felt.  Didn't look to off the wall.

Try Restoration specialties.

It is not like GM to make something like that that wasn't also used in another application and provided by a vendor.

[Barn Owl]

I have seen GM's with several window configurations. I like the ones that look like a scoop. I have also seen a screened pitot tube style air vent that stuck out of the A-pillar. Always wondered how well it worked. Mine has a Peninsula window with a slider and it's not much good for catching the wind, but farts escape rather nicely though. Maybe I need to tape a floor register diverter to it and see what kind of air flow I could get.

[TomC]

I have a vertically split Peninsula window with the opening part at the front half.  Like it alot since it also has a removable screen.  Get it tinted, I did not tint that window and wished I did (all others are lightly tinted).  Good Luck, TomC

[tekebird]

prior to tinting your driver window check your local laws.

in most states is not legal to tint the driver or door window.



A pilar tube is called a gasper.  it works fair

not as well as a OEM split window