Bus Crash in KY This Morning 06/25/07

[Nusa]

I think you meant to link this instead: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19538301/. The one you gave is about a bus fire.

[DrivingMissLazy]

Sorry. I was talking about paying Greyhound passengers traveling from base to home or home to base and also civilians traveling cross country. I know things have changed much  from the past operation, but I really feel it is the bus drivers responsibility to monitor over crowding conditions, not the passengers. And it seems difficult to understand that overcrowding would have anything to do with the crash. Is there any requirement currently for bus passengers to have and utilize seat belts on commercial vehicles. I know it is not required on school buses.
Richard

Hey Richard,
Standing in a crowded transit bus (or in military transport) is one thing, but expecting (paying?) passangers to stand for the trip from NY to Alabama? Me thinks there is much more going on here & it ain't just the bus operator.

[Dallas]

First and foremost.
Every commercial driver learns that the first rule when becoming a "professional" driver is: THE DRIVER IS RESPONSIBLE!

If he runs out of fuel, he's responsible.
If a wheel breaks at the lug nuts, flys off and kills a car load of teenagers, he is resposible.
If he runs into a bridge abutment, the driver is responsible.

It doesn't matter what goes wrong, ultimately, the driver is responsible.

The driver is the one who does the walk around and checks everything on his vehicle before and after every days work.
The driver is the one who knows he is so sleepy he can't drive anymore but does it anyway.
The driver is the one who is mashing the pedal to make that last 100 miles home.
The driver is the one who decides to follow too close and rearends someone.

You cannot blame it on anyone else. When the company turns the vehicle over to him, he is complete and total control of that vehicle.
Sure, if he decides to stop and sleep instead of getting the load to it's destination at 04:00 he'll get fired.
He'll also get fired if he marks a vehicle out of service on his log book.
He'll also get fired for exceeding the posted speed limit by more than 15 mph if he's caught.

I hate to say it, but anytime anyone gets behind the wheel, they are responsible. It doesn't matter if the tire monkey torqued the lugnuts on with a 1" lugwrench until the wheel cracked.... it's the drivers job to check behind the service person.

Always.

Dallas

[kyle4501]

Thanks NUSA, that is the one I thought I was posting.

Hell yes Dallas, I agree. BUT, we as passangers need to take responsibility for our own sake if & when those who are supposed to fail to do so. Just because the driver is at fault does not mean he is solely responsible & all the passangers are faultless .  .  .  Just my opinion

[lostagain]

I'm with Dallas, when I was driving professionally, the driver was responsible for everything, and at fault if anything went wrong. That's why we had to walk around the vehicule and drive defensively.