Balancing Beads?

[Jim Blackwood]

That video is useless. Nothing but marketing. What do they do to affect the balance?

Common sense says they go as far from center as possible. Tires do tend to be not perfectly round and that would create an imbalance, not cure it.

Jim

[luvrbus]

A good tire doesn't need balancing, especially on the drive axle.

When Les Schwab in OR installed 8 new tires on the Country Coach they used nothing but the balancing dot on the tires,I ask he said it was a waste of $320.00 to balance they would be fine and they are.I asked about the beads and he said no with the Bendix TPMS tire system inside the tire it would destroy the sensors,he wasn't all that hip on beads though period   

[chessie4905]

Add a pint of antifreeze blend.

[luvrbus]

Add a pint of antifreeze blend.

Some say golf balls.I bet the golf balls work good when the cover wears out and they unwind inside the tire 

[Utahclaimjumper]

  I have been using beads for 20 years and they are the best at keeping the tires balanced for the life of the tires,, no down side..>>>Dan

[Jim Blackwood]

How do they work? I want to know the details. Without a suitable explanation that makes it clear how they compensate for the imbalance it is still all nothing but snake oil.

Jim

[dtcerrato]

How do they work? I want to know the details. Without a suitable explanation that makes it clear how they compensate for the imbalance it is still all nothing but snake oil.

Jim

Jim try this one, the proof is in the pudding. We've used this method for 20 years. No issues and tires stay balanced even after rotating.
https://www.centramatic.com/wheel-balancing-educational-video.rhtml

[Jim Blackwood]

OK that's good but I want to know WHY the balls go to the light side. What is the force that does this? I can see from the video that it does and I believe what I'm being told by you who have tried it, but I still want to know why. Someone besides me has to have questioned this because it is a contrary result. Intuitively it is wrong.

Jim

[dtcerrato]

A couple of informatory paragraphs I found on the web...

The beads spread out as the tire rotates, drive by the tire's rotation. When the heavy spot on the tire moves the wheel in one direction, momentum carries the beads the other way, until they spread out in a "balanced" layer. that's a layer such that spinning the tire doesn't cause vibration - aka balanced.

Centrifugal force is the natural force that distributes the beads evenly around the inner liner of the tire, while the inertia is what positions them where they need to be. This happens when the upward and downward motion of the suspension, and vibrations of the wheel imbalances force the product to do so.Oct 13, 2020

[luvrbus]

A couple of informatory paragraphs I found on the web...

The beads spread out as the tire rotates, drive by the tire's rotation. When the heavy spot on the tire moves the wheel in one direction, momentum carries the beads the other way, until they spread out in a "balanced" layer. that's a layer such that spinning the tire doesn't cause vibration - aka balanced.

Centrifugal force is the natural force that distributes the beads evenly around the inner liner of the tire, while the inertia is what positions them where they need to be. This happens when the upward and downward motion of the suspension, and vibrations of the wheel imbalances force the product to do so.Oct 13, 2020

I can't see that theory working at all speeds,I seen the tire companies dump a 12 oz bag of beads in tires before that a lot of lead weights 

[DoubleEagle]

The balancing dot on the Toyo's sounds very interesting, how many other makes do this?

[luvrbus]

The balancing dot on the Toyo's sounds very interesting, how many other makes do this?

Have no idea Walter .some wheels have a dot or a notch you match with the dot on the tire

[dtcerrato]

Have no idea Walter .some wheels have a dot or a notch you match with the dot on the tire

So I would assume the dot denotes the heavy side so if you put the dots 180° apart that would lend to the most balanced condition? Or something like that?

[Gary Hatt - Publisher BCM]

A good tire doesn't need balancing, especially on the drive axle.

Yeah, you would think they would come balanced from the factory...aye?

[Utahclaimjumper]

 
I really don't know or care what makes them work as they do,, I do know that when I replace a tire I always have beads installed..  When first starting out with a new tire I can feel some bouncing and also feel it slowly going away with a few miles,,, never to return during the life of the tire,, good enough experience for me..>>>Dan