fuel prices

[richard5933]

Yeap screw polls but you can't deny what's happening to the economy and some think Biden has nothing to do with the economy it's all globle economics which must mean our elections are meaningless so it doesn't matter who's in office so does this mean the price of energy is all the fault of the evil oil companies who must actually rule the world? Nothing to do with with trillions of dallars printed for the Biden administrations green new deal bill or bills whatever is this correct I must be confused somebody help me out here. 

Not sure why the rush to blame Biden or anyone else. Seems to me that many on this forum are strong supporters of the free market system, and this is what we're seeing right now.

Oil companies and groups like OPEC have pushed the fear of a fuel shortage after Russia attacked Ukraine, and then used that fear to drive up the price of oil on the open market.

As the price of oil increases, the companies pumping it are making more and more money from it. It doesn't cost any more to pump a barrel today than it did yesterday, but yet the price at the pumps near me have shot up 30 cents in a day.

Free market hard at work doing its thing. People fear a shortage of supply, traders on the commodity markets push up the price, and the people selling it rack in huge profits without doing any more work.

A couple of years ago we all benefited when this system worked the other way - the pandemic caused a drastic reduction in demand which caused the oil prices to plummet. At the time I knew that eventually we'd have to pay the piper, and that's what's happening now.

[windtrader]

Richard - Govermnment policy does influence prices. Whether it be grain subsidizes, tariffs, oil leasing, XL pipeline, trade agreements, etc. We don't live in a truly FREE market system. As to the trillions put into the money supply during COVID, it does impact free market mechanics. Apprently, plenty still have cash to travel this weekend. If they had less discretionary money, less travel means less fuel consumption, means less demand, means lower prices.

[richard5933]

Richard - Govermnment policy does influence prices. Whether it be grain subsidizes, tariffs, oil leasing, XL pipeline, trade agreements, etc. We don't live in a truly FREE market system. As to the trillions put into the money supply during COVID, it does impact free market mechanics. Apprently, plenty still have cash to travel this weekend. If they had less discretionary money, less travel means less fuel consumption, means less demand, means lower prices.

Of course it does influence prices, but when the problems are global there is limited ability of any one country to fix the problem for itself.

[freds]

Of course it does influence prices, but when the problems are global there is limited ability of any one country to fix the problem for itself.

Well said Richard!!!

The greatest generation put up with lots of hardship and when we are inconvenienced we bitch like we are on a cross having spikes driven through our feet.

I just watched an interesting video today about gun ownership being almost universal in Switzerland: So Many Guns, No Mass Shootings..

Heck they mix public shooting events with beer fests!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkuMLId8SqE

[Dave5Cs]

This is why I don't do fakebook and now wondering about here?

[chessie4905]

Fueled up outside Winnepeg. $2.04/litre. Approximately $6.05/ gallon.
Crossed border on Rt59 attesting. Quiet place. Doesn't look like the guy gets many people. Road north was fair with small frost heaves for about 30 miles. Very little traffic since we left Thief River Fall. Evidence of a lot of flooding still remains on the pancake terrain.

[luvrbus]

This is why I don't do fakebook and now wondering about here?

Sunday and Monday is no politics for me it is 2 days of remembering the young men and women that died so we could be having this BS conversation   

[Van]

 

Sunday and Monday is no politics for me it is 2 days of remembering the young men and women that died so we could be having this BS conversation

   

[Dave5Cs]

 life is good.

[freds]

This is why I don't do fakebook and now wondering about here?

Hey I do think a lot of us are calcified old farts and prior to the internet if we were weird we would get shouted down at the local bar or VFW hall.

The problem with the internet is that everyone can reach out for positive reinforcement to others of like bent or weirdness.

I do think that social media has actually been detriment.

As an ex serviceman I considered myself a John McCain republican duty loyalty and country, every conversation I have had with a MAGA republican lately is that doesn't exist anymore!!!!

So where the hell does that leave me? Do I need to exercise some common sense or start drinking the toxic cool aid?

Note I was a republican because of the shame of being supported by welfare as a first and second grader and after that boot strapped myself out of that situation. Me and my employees have paid millions of taxes over the last 30 years.

So hell yeah I more than paid back the welfare that supported me as child and even for the equipment I used while I was in the service.

Anyway let's get off the soap box and go back to talking about the heavy metal that is our social service with our recycled buses!!!

Should this be my last post, yes or no?

[buswarrior]

This is why I don't do fakebook and now wondering about here?

Thread drift, wrong section of the Board, Moderated?

Never mind.

Happy coaching!
Buswarrior

[dtcerrato]

GENTLEMEN - START YOUR BUSES!
and go somewhere... Anywhere! 

[Busted Knuckle]

I just read something the other day that dealers of ATVs, UTVs, and other similar toys are begging manufacturers for more inventory as they can sell everything they can get.

Brian that's because banks are loaning $ hand over fists and people are borrowing like crazy not caring if they can repay or NOT!
I've actually had 2 different home owners we were building for tell me straight out "If things get to bad, we'll pack up and walk away, it won't be the end of the world!"

But remember when things get too rough those same banks will be crying for and getting bail outs just like last time!
  BK 

[Tedsoldbus]

Ditto with DT Cerrato. I hope Alaska is treating you well. And Chessie is headed your way? We scaled back on long trips this year, but not parking the bus. Topped off last week and about to claw our way through Chattanooga and Nashville next week on the way to meet RogertGlines in Evansville at the steam show. Maybe see the Greyhound terminal that is now a hot dog stand?
I don't think we are wealthy but I am retired military, drawing Soc Sec, and we have no kids. Perhaps the third item is far more draining than I realize. But we bought this bus to use it. I did not survive 25 years in the military to sit around now. Prices are a pain, but not going to make us park the bus. Trying to live by the idea that life is not a rehearsal. I had to miss Loudonville last year due to a little melanoma on my head, due to be cut off the day after the Flxible parade. Didn't go to Ohio because nothing was going to be fun until the surgery was over. 65 this summer. Time to get busy living! Five years from now I will remember meeting Robert Glines and seeing the steam show. I won't remember what fuel cost me.
When you have to pull in for fuel, remember three things:
You can't take it with you
You can't come back and get it
Calculate how much you need when you're dead.

[freds]

Calculate how much you need when you're dead.

LOL!!!