Diesel

[sledhead]

thanks 4 lookin

I like the truck stops only because I am just over 70' long with the truck on the back so I need lots of room to get in & out. I do use the efs fuel card so some stops u save a nice amount . 

[TomC]

Best price in Camarillo, Ca- $4.69. Best price here in Nampa, Idaho- $3.69. $1.00/gal difference is major when you're putting in 100gal and getting 6.5mpg. Good Luck, TomC

[TomC]

What was nice, on my last trip through Utah, is Maverick gives $.02/gal discount off the posted price for belonging to their frequent fueler program. AND all you need to do is give them your phone number you registered with.

[luvrbus]

Oil closed at $90.00 prices will be going up before coming down ,the more bio in the fuel the cheaper it gets,but popcorn prices increase

[Dave5Cs]

Kansas Diesel is $299.00 no bio and they have three different grades of Gas like the old days, lol

[windtrader]

Some of the fluctuations is due to refinery capacity. For example, in the major areas of CA, there are different blends of gas, winter and summer. There are also scheduled and unscheduled outages. Depending on how the switch over scheduling goes, formulations may suffer shortages which changes prices. Also, the winter blend is less costly, could be the other way around, and that alters pump prices. I should know that but it is all so expensive now, I just shut my eyes and grip the lever.

Another factor is the brutal and punishing amount of regulations in the state. Both ongoing monitoring, reporting, and equipment standards but also the grueling gauntlet of getting a station approved and even worse is the refitting of existing stations. It is simply amazing to see how much work is required to refit an existing station. Work goes on for months and months as the entire lot is dug up and refitted.

Then there are local conditions. Real estate is costly, wages are high, yes, even for the guy selling candy bars, that drive up the cost to keep the lights on.

and of course, the greedy state gropes into every crevice where a penny can be had and takes as much tax as they can.

Still worth it to me as I sit here in 60 degree, perfectly sunny and calm day, soaking up the beautiful weather. As long as the beauty and weather hold up, CA will always be to go to place unless it goes totally socialist.

Almost forgot the main point, diesel prices are affected by supply/demand and how refineries allocate production to various products. We know it is less refined so can cost less but they keep the supply to keep the price where it sells.

[chessie4905]

This may change minds about Ca. if it ever becomes law:

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2022-01-24/skelton-single-payer-bill-cost-appropriations-california

[richard5933]

This may change minds about Ca. if it ever becomes law:

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2022-01-24/skelton-single-payer-bill-cost-appropriations-california

What's the link to diesel fuel prices? I'm not seeing the connection.

[Dave5Cs]

That got voted down last week. Old news

[dtcerrato]

thanks 4 lookin

I like the truck stops only because I am just over 70' long with the truck on the back so I need lots of room to get in & out. I do use the efs fuel card so some stops u save a nice amount .

Can't help you there Dave, of all the diesel stations at least in C FL - the truck stops near freeway corridors are voodoo places to fuel for the locals as they have the highest prices of all. No fuel card or club is going to discount fuel prices to match smaller away from corridor stations. Call it big rig blues or whatever but it is what it is. Safe travels.

[chessie4905]

Response to comment about loving Ca. Yeah, old news but it came up anyway and most likely won't  go away. That would have a major impact on fuel prices. Seems like fuel taxes is always a great way to increase revenue.
With the push to electric vehicles, nothing like adding additional fuel taxes to encourage change over.

[windtrader]

For sure the increasing conversion to EV is impacting road maintenance funds. Currently, diesel/gas tax funds most of this but as less revenue comes from these sources, it'll likely move toward a use based fee.


It is going to be very interesting to experience the transition but the money grubbers will find a way to screw us for the max. Wouldn't it be just grand to see them keep the gas tax and add the usage tax too. No better incentive to get people off gas and onto batteries.


Maybe diesel will have its own category as most use is true commercial. You know in CA, they make pickups register as commercial just to grab more bucks from drivers.

[richard5933]

...Wouldn't it be just grand to see them keep the gas tax and add the usage tax too. ...

I see it playing out more along the lines of the IFTA, using the technology already in the EVs to track miles driven and where. Switching them to a use tax is simple, and the cars without will just remain on the fuel tax. Eventually there will only be a few legacy vehicles left on the roads paying a per-gallon tax.

My guess is that within the next few years you'll see states forming a compact for non-commercial vehicles similar to IFTA to make the switch, as they will be losing more and more of the road tax from fuel.

[Jim Blackwood]

Their refineries can send their left over gas and diesel our way. That should help ease our prices.

Jim

[sledhead]

Can't help you there Dave, of all the diesel stations at least in C FL - the truck stops near freeway corridors are voodoo places to fuel for the locals as they have the highest prices of all. No fuel card or club is going to discount fuel prices to match smaller away from corridor stations. Call it big rig blues or whatever but it is what it is. Safe travels.

This is the 1st time I have used the TSD fuel disvount card
82 gal of diesel at 3.86 = $316.57 - disc of $51 = $265

so not to bad for nothin other that signing up for it

thats .62 off a gal.    3.86 - .62 = 3.24 a gal.

but I hear that loves discount is not 2 good but I will let u know