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Firearms in the bus?

Started by Tedsoldbus, December 20, 2021, 06:27:38 PM

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windtrader

Hell with a Bowie knife, I'll carry my heritage's weapon of choice  - a one-meter samurai sword. lol


I hear "Perception IS reality".


I also heard unless you are unwavering in your ability to squeeze the trigger, never point a gun at someone.


Personally, I don't trust myself to make the correct decision in a split second, I have no training or experience and would not want to know I killed someone when a less-lethal option could have diffused the situation.


I'm fine with dealing with using a banned substance on another human rather than defending a homicide charge, even if in the right.
Don F
1976 MCI/TMC MC-8 #1286
Fully converted
Bought 2017

chessie4905

Most of these "studies" are done to reinforce the writers opinion, or the employer of the writer.
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Jim Blackwood

Not sure there are many places that they'll let you just walk around with a Samurai sword on your belt. Or any sword for that matter. Or even a sheath knife over a certain length. But for reasons having to do with national heritage mostly I think, there seems to be a widespread exception for the Bowie. Maybe because Dan'l Boone was in the legislature, I don't know. But, as it's there you can make use of it if you want. Also makes a sorta handy axe, hammer, chisel or screwdriver if the need arises. And let's face it, only a VERY screwed up perp is going up against someone who carries that.

My life has been very peaceful. I've only been shot at a few times and rarely threatened with knives. I think that's mostly because of small actions to appear kinda intimidating even at rest. Doesn't seem to take much, a big part seems to be attitude.

Jim
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luvrbus

I thought the legal length of knife was 3 inches if you were carrying one,you would be in deep stuff with short arms
Life is short drink the good wine first

windtrader

What are you talking about? You can open carry a pistol on your belt but can't strap a sword to your belt?
Don F
1976 MCI/TMC MC-8 #1286
Fully converted
Bought 2017

richard5933

Knife laws vary from state to state, just like about everything else.

They don't all make sense, and they don't all have much clarity regarding what is legal and what is not.

Here in Wisconsin, one section of law states that anyone who could legally get a concealed carry permit can conceal carry any knife without a permit. Anyone who couldn't get a permit is not allow to conceal carry a knife which would be considered a dangerous weapon. Another section of law states that a knife can not be considered a dangerous weapon. Wonder which statue overrides the other?
Richard
1974 GMC P8M4108a-125 Custom Coach "Land Cruiser" (Sold)
1964 GM PD4106-2412 (Former Bus)
1994 Airstream Excella 25-ft w/ 1999 Suburban 2500
Located in beautiful Wisconsin

richard5933

Quote from: luvrbus on December 22, 2021, 03:53:34 AM
We have a big problem with crime ...

We think we have a big problem with crime.
Richard
1974 GMC P8M4108a-125 Custom Coach "Land Cruiser" (Sold)
1964 GM PD4106-2412 (Former Bus)
1994 Airstream Excella 25-ft w/ 1999 Suburban 2500
Located in beautiful Wisconsin

Van

If I had a Tank Id open carry that sucker, hell I'd tow the bus with it. Try imposing that 10 year rule at the camp grounds then lol!
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luvrbus

Quote from: richard5933 on December 22, 2021, 02:18:36 PM
We think we have a big problem with crime.

We do have a crime rate being from Texas I see what is going there in Austin but it is about the only liberal city in Texas better find you a more up to date study 
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richard5933

Quote from: luvrbus on December 22, 2021, 03:17:49 PM


We do have a crime rate being from Texas I see what is going there in Austin but it is about the only liberal city in Texas better find you a more up to date study

Are you comparing the raw number of crimes or the per capita rate?

I've just looked at a number of reports coming directly from Texas, and Austin is nowhere near the top of the list for dangerous cities in Texas.

Lots of other (much more right-leaning) cities in Texas with much higher crime rates than Austin.
Richard
1974 GMC P8M4108a-125 Custom Coach "Land Cruiser" (Sold)
1964 GM PD4106-2412 (Former Bus)
1994 Airstream Excella 25-ft w/ 1999 Suburban 2500
Located in beautiful Wisconsin

Van

Quote from: luvrbus on December 22, 2021, 03:17:49 PM


We do have a crime rate being from Texas I see what is going there in Austin but it is about the only liberal city in Texas better find you a more up to date study
But it's mostly peaceful crime Cliff 😊
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epretot

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Loveland, OH

kyle4501

One of the things I like about the motorhome is that if something changes to cause me to feel it is no longer safe, I don't have to step outside the coach before leaving (it is better if not plugged in . . . . .)   (Sometimes, things look very different in the morning light)

I generally prefer to BE over prepared rather than wish I was prepared.

My personal choice is to avoid conflicts - friends come & go, but enemies tend to accumulate.

My opinion is that non-lethal options should be pursued first and my gun should remain concealed until lethal force is required -- once that point is reached, there is no turning back.

If you feel threatened enough to pull a gun - you better be planning on the perp feeling/ hearing it before they see it. Once they see it, you have lost significant advantage.


About those "studies" - they are often published to promote the goals & purposes of those who funded them.

It is very difficult if not impossible to have a truly unbiased study on anything !
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luvrbus

Quote from: kyle4501 on December 22, 2021, 05:24:33 PM
One of the things I like about the motorhome is that if something changes to cause me to feel it is no longer safe, I don't have to step outside the coach before leaving (it is better if not plugged in . . . . .)   (Sometimes, things look very different in the morning light)

I generally prefer to BE over prepared rather than wish I was prepared.

My personal choice is to avoid conflicts - friends come & go, but enemies tend to accumulate.

My opinion is that non-lethal options should be pursued first and my gun should remain concealed until lethal force is required -- once that point is reached, there is no turning back.

If you feel threatened enough to pull a gun - you better be planning on the perp feeling/ hearing it before they see it. Once they see it, you have lost significant advantage.


About those "studies" - they are often published to promote the goals & purposes of those who funded them.

It is very difficult if not impossible to have a truly unbiased study on anything !
Quote from: kyle4501 on December 22, 2021, 05:24:33 PM
One of the things I like about the motorhome is that if something changes to cause me to feel it is no longer safe, I don't have to step outside the coach before leaving (it is better if not plugged in . . . . .)   (Sometimes, things look very different in the morning light)

I generally prefer to BE over prepared rather than wish I was prepared.

My personal choice is to avoid conflicts - friends come & go, but enemies tend to accumulate.

My opinion is that non-lethal options should be pursued first and my gun should remain concealed until lethal force is required -- once that point is reached, there is no turning back.

If you feel threatened enough to pull a gun - you better be planning on the perp feeling/ hearing it before they see it. Once they see it, you have lost significant advantage.


About those "studies" - they are often published to promote the goals & purposes of those who funded them.

It is very difficult if not impossible to have a truly unbiased study on anything !
Quote from: richard5933 on December 22, 2021, 03:39:40 PM

In CWC class they teach the 21 ft rule if the thug threatens you in 21 ft take action because the average person can do 21 ft in 1.5 seconds,I don't agree with taking a body shot every time though
 
Life is short drink the good wine first

tr206

Bottom line is you have the right to defend yourself at least in America. I don't worry alot about all the different state laws because 99+% of the time law enforcement isn't going to be there to bail your @$# out when someone wants to do great bodily harm to you and yours. A body cam or cell phone recording of the incident would help justify your actions in a court of law.  Enjoy life, feel secure and don't get caught with your pants and/or panties down.
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