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Strategic oil reserve fuel in my Prevost?

Started by Tedsoldbus, December 04, 2021, 05:29:46 PM

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luvrbus

Stations that paid the high prices need to sell the existing fuel before they can drop prices is why it varies so much it hurts the little guys
Life is short drink the good wine first

belfert

Fuel stations will say they have to raise prices because the next tank will cost more, but when prices go down they say they can't lower prices because they paid more for the fuel in the tank.  How come they can have it both ways?  If prices go up because the next tank will cost more then shouldn't prices go down when the next tank will cost less?
Brian Elfert - 1995 Dina Viaggio 1000 Series 60/B500 - 75% done but usable - Minneapolis, MN

Jim Blackwood

That's kinda like asking the government to lower taxes. You'll get a lot of smoke blown up your backside but that's all that will happen.

Jim
I saw it on the Internet. It MUST be true...

richard5933

Quote from: belfert on December 08, 2021, 11:05:57 AM
Fuel stations will say they have to raise prices because the next tank will cost more, but when prices go down they say they can't lower prices because they paid more for the fuel in the tank.  How come they can have it both ways?  If prices go up because the next tank will cost more then shouldn't prices go down when the next tank will cost less?

They raise prices at the pump because they can.

They don't lower them because they don't have to.

We buy the fuel either way.
Richard
1974 GMC P8M4108a-125 Custom Coach "Land Cruiser" (Sold)
1964 GM PD4106-2412 (Former Bus)
1994 Airstream Excella 25-ft w/ 1999 Suburban 2500
Located in beautiful Wisconsin

Busted Knuckle

$2.95 a gallon @ several places in Paris, TN! (of course right after I fueled up Sat. @ $3.16 in the same place!)
;D  BK  ;D
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KY Lakeside Travel's Busted Knuckle Garage
Huntingdon, TN 12 minutes N of I-40 @ exit 108
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TomC

Let's see-the USA uses 21 million barrels of Petroleum per day. The current occupant of the White House released 50 million barrels of Petroleum. Gee-that works out to be 2.5 days worth of Petroleum. Yep-that's going to REALLY help. Good Luck, TomC
Tom & Donna Christman. 1985 Kenworth 40ft Super C with garage. '77 AMGeneral 10240B; 8V-71TATAIC V730.

richard5933

Wasn't the US acting alone on this. The release was done in conjunction with China, India, South Korea, Japan and Britain. Best I can tell prices have dropped since then, but of course there is no way to know how much is due to the strategic release and how much to other market conditions.
Richard
1974 GMC P8M4108a-125 Custom Coach "Land Cruiser" (Sold)
1964 GM PD4106-2412 (Former Bus)
1994 Airstream Excella 25-ft w/ 1999 Suburban 2500
Located in beautiful Wisconsin

luvrbus

Don't be to hard on fuel stops because when your setting on 30,000 gals of gasoline and 10,000 gals of diesel you a  loose your @$# when you paid $3.50 a gal and it drops to $3.00 but if you buy @$3.00 and goes up to $3.50 you make a little.Its a balancing act you call before 10:am get the price and order or wait, prices can change both ways between 10:am and 4:pm.The prices your seeing today is for $50.00 a barrel of oil lol it closed today @72.50 a barrel ,so that means if Joe replaced the 50,000 barrels today the tax payers will take a hit for a few days of cheaper fuel.Production drives the price down and they stopped a lot of it.Fuel in Needles CA today when we went to eat lunch was $5.69 to $5.99 lol how about 100 gals of that 
Life is short drink the good wine first

chessie4905

Opec was considering another production cut to counteract the reserves released. Not sure whether they will follow through.
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Pennsylvania-central

Van

Quote from: luvrbus on December 08, 2021, 03:18:49 PM
Don't be to hard on fuel stops because when your setting on 30,000 gals of gasoline and 10,000 gals of diesel you a  loose your @$# when you paid $3.50 a gal and it drops to $3.00 but if you buy @$3.00 and goes up to $3.50 you make a little.Its a balancing act you call before 10:am get the price and order or wait, prices can change both ways between 10:am and 4:pm.The prices your seeing today is for $50.00 a barrel of oil lol it closed today @72.50 a barrel ,so that means if Joe replaced the 50,000 barrels today the tax payers will take a hit for a few days of cheaper fuel.Production drives the price down and they stopped a lot of it.Fuel in Needles CA today when we went to eat lunch was $5.69 to $5.99 lol how about 100 gals of that
I love how eastbound I-10 Broadway exit in Needles dumps the motorists that forgot to fuel up in Barstow right at that Shell station. $5.99 :o Lol! when you could scoot over the bridge into Az to get you some of that cheaper fuel ;D
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richard5933

Quote from: Van on December 08, 2021, 08:49:17 PM
I love how eastbound I-10 Broadway exit in Needles dumps the motorists that forgot to fuel up in Barstow right at that Shell station. $5.99 :o Lol! when you could scoot over the bridge into Az to get you some of that cheaper fuel ;D

I think there are stations like that all over the place - putting a fuel stop where the need is high and the supply is low is a great choice. We have a few places here in SE Wisconsin where the one convenient station to a freeway exit charges considerably more than one a short drive away.

Still not sure what makes fuel so expensive out by you guys - that $5.99/gal price is double what we pay here. It's making the snow and cold look like less of a hassle every day.
Richard
1974 GMC P8M4108a-125 Custom Coach "Land Cruiser" (Sold)
1964 GM PD4106-2412 (Former Bus)
1994 Airstream Excella 25-ft w/ 1999 Suburban 2500
Located in beautiful Wisconsin

belfert

In 2002 when gas was first getting expensive we stopped at the first station in some town in Wyoming.  Gas was something like $1.70 per gallon at that station which was outrageous at the time.  We decided not to fill up there and went to the next exit for that town or something and found gas for less than $1.50 per gallon.  I think the first station was taking advantage of drivers who needed gas and just stopped at the first station they could find.  We didn't have smartphones and all that to monitor gas prices on the go back then.
Brian Elfert - 1995 Dina Viaggio 1000 Series 60/B500 - 75% done but usable - Minneapolis, MN

chessie4905

Gas buddy app. saved us a lot of money this summer. Granted places didn't  all accommodate a coach, but many did. The fuel card is the most popular one, but its still quite useful especially for your non coach vehicles.
GMC h8h 649#028 (4905)
Pennsylvania-central

luvrbus

Our fuel in Az is not anymore exspensive than other states,in Ca the price sucks, ,price depends on lots of things with the new EPA rules installing tanks in concrete valults with a monitoring systems really sucks building a station it adds a bundle to the cost of building and has to be paid for.Old stations with 2000 gal tanks pay the same delivery price as one holding 9000 gals and they pass it on   
Life is short drink the good wine first

windtrader

The map below shows the obvious about CA prices. Guess it just shows on special we in CA really are. We really are special and get to pay special prices.  8)


The regs on storage tanks you seeing in AZ at the Fed level is old stuff out here. So many older corner stations on prime property shuttered up when they shuttered at the cost to bring up the new tanks to current CAazi CARB rules. I think they now want double lined stainless. jk
Don F
1976 MCI/TMC MC-8 #1286
Fully converted
Bought 2017