Has anyone driven there bus on Tail of the Dragon?

[dtcerrato]

@Uncle Ned
30mph, slower in the curves - for a bus anyways. 

[Ed Hackenbruch]

Dave, the secret to Az is to be in the right place at the right time of year. You have to be mobile to do that......oh wait! you are!!! 

[Dave5Cs]

Ed, nope lol to darn hot and dry and blowing sand.

[luvrbus]

Ed, nope lol to darn hot and dry and blowing sand.

Here in valley the Indians watch the weather report for wind then they plow the fields (dumb),it been real nice here but we will get the north winds in a few weeks for sure.You get a lot of wind,heat and sand in Ca too.San Bernardino County the largest county in the US is desert and hot as hell with lots of wind so it is not just AZ,lol remember Needles is CA
   

[windtrader]

Dave - There are some rural counties in CA where smog testing is waived, probably due to the lack of people and pollution. Going to check this out and get some of my "problem" cars registered there, hopefully less insurance complications.


Since Clifford like to brag about going 3 hours to get a change of weather, I'll one up him on how the micro climates in the Bay Area are truly globally rare. On a typical summer day, you can be in Concord, CA about 20 miles as the crow flies to the Golden Gate. It will be 103 there. You drive west and the temperature drops one degree per mile. You go about 12 miles to the tunnel through the East Bay hills and it is now 90. Two minutes later you pop out the west side and it is instantly 75, 15 degree drop. Keep heading across the Bay Bridge and it is now 68 in SF. Head to Golden Gate Park and the ocean is 55 degrees. Typically it can be a 30 degree difference so this example is a bit on the fringe of everyday but still shows how dramatic the difference can be.


Many days, it would be 95 where we lived, too hot, get in car, go 15 minutes then super nice 75 degree weather. Many times we'd leave our house at 75, calm and sunny, head across town 6 miles to a kid's soccer game and it would be 60, foggy, and cold as hell. What say you now Clifford? LOL JK

[dtcerrato]

I remember working Southern California's Santa Monica and East Los Angeles. The two were very different in temps. East LA would be in the high 70s to low 80s while Santa Monica in the am under the Mediterranean sea mist would barely climb into the 60s while the San Fernando Valley would feel like summer. Salt Lake City would be 94 & an hour to the east in the high Uinta's would be in the low 40s. That kind of diverse geography weather patterns happens in lots of places - especially with elevation change. The coastal Cali differences are all near sea level. Common knowledge is that the Mediterranean climates (west coast of continents) of the world are the most comfortable to humans. Geography & weather wise it's hard to beat coastal California but when stirred with atmospheric rivers, Santa Ana winds coupled with mud slides & wild fires Cali's weather can pack a punch. Mix all that with severe over population and spider webbed grid locked freeways then up goes populations in AZ, Idaho, etc. But one thing always stays constant: ie. A true bus nut can be wherever they wanna be... 

[luvrbus]

LOL how long did it take you to drive the 12 miles,I like parts of CA but come on it is not the perfect place by a long shot neither is AZ .We are moving back to Scottsdale so my driving time will be about 45 mins then to the mountains,and we have no fog closest we get to fog is from CA burning blowing our direction.Dan you are right about Utah where Dan and Mike live up the hill from Cedar City in 10 miles you need the heater leaving the 90 dregree weather     

[windtrader]

Smart people ride their ebikes! LOL


Many places are getting congested for sure. No denying that. There were times when I'd bring a book and read a chapter while no cars moved through an intersection in downtown SF. Everyone just "blocked the block" so nobody could move. I miss the symphony of cars blaring horns thinking it would make the cars move. Finally wised up and took BART.


A couple of years ago the work trip to San Jose was so bad, every residential road, parking lot, gas station, and every drivable surface became fair game to get to your destination. I got into a carpool and learned some tricks. The crazy Asian lady had it all gamed out, going the opposite direction doing various U turn, cutting crossing across corner gas stations, etc to lessen the jams. SO glad no more driving to the work office. LA, SoCal of course is worse like Dan says

[RJ]

We are moving back to Scottsdale. .

Clifford -

Why are you moving back to Scottsdale?

Are you keeping the property in Mojave Valley?

RJ

[luvrbus]

Clifford -

Why are you moving back to Scottsdale?

Are you keeping the property in Mojave Valley?

RJ

Mainly because of Sonja's health and the kids are there,I sold the hay farm and the warehouses here and selling the place Mohave Valley.I am not big on Scottsdale never liked it when we lived there for 15 years but it is what is Sonja never liked Mohave Valley Now back to wearing Docker shorts,Nike shoes and  getting a hair cut every few weeks lol,I hate to move since Boomer is my neighbor now he is good friend we have a lot of fun.RJ I was thinking this morning life is funny you plan for the future and to make life better for xxx number of years then you spend the rest of life trying to get rid of the assets i did make life better for the kids and proud of it.We got way off topic on this thread       

[chessie4905]

glad we got to meet you and Sonja this summer. She is a wonderful lady.

[luvrbus]

glad we got to meet you and Sonja this summer. She is a wonderful lady.

Thanks John we enjoyed meetiing you and Linda also,Sonja is a great persons she is a great wife and mother and has been a important part of my life for 50 years,With her education and me being sorta of a redneck people said our marriage would never last,we made it work.We were like the movie raising 6 kids we had yours,mine and theirs and she did one hella of job   

[Jim Blackwood]

We got way off topic on this thread     

Huh. Never known that to happen before...

Jim

[dtcerrato]

Being married can sometimes be like holding onto a mad dragon's tail! Lol

[Busted Knuckle]

I have been all over Virginia the roads do have a lot curves in the Appalachians in the lates 60's our low boys hauling pipeline equipment from the east side to west used a lot of those roads with escorts.They would get hung up sometime ,I didn't find them that bad and I was flat lander lol we did replace a lot of bridges back then when the truck fell into one.To me the cow paths in PA they called highways in the mountains were worse. Tazewell VA sticks in mind for some reason I have yet to figure out why CRS

Clifford funny you mention Tazewell, VA a friend an I were talking the other day an he asked me if I remembered Tazewell?
LORD how could I ever forget Tazewell, VA I spent a week there one night!

Yeah you read it right, I spent a night there once an at breakfast my buddy an I were talking and I told him I'd just realized my DOT physical had expired overnight, but it'd be OK I'd be home tomorrow and get it renewed!
Hmpf! Little did either of know it but the 2 guys at the next table were VA DOT officers adn heard us talking so one followed me out to the truck an the other went an got their car.
As soon as I unlocked my truck they pulled across the front of it and informed me that my expired DOT card had just earned me a full blown inspection and automatic out of service order until I got it renewed!
The truck passed inspection and my paper work was in OK order although they told me straight out they didn't believe a page in my log book!
But they stood their ground I was not goin ANYWHERE until I got that DOT card renewed!
Took 2 days to get an appointment for a DOT exam at local a doctor, but they couldn't get me in for another 3 days! So yeah I spent a week their one night! (I was only there to get my required 8 hours off duty!)

And BTW I flat out asked those two PECKERHEADS how they knew my card was expired and they told me they were at the next table and heard our conversation!
  BK