Cost of Electricity

[usbusin]

Diablo Canyon Nuclear Power Plant is going to be shut down in 2024/2025. Where is this loss of electricity going to come from?  Here are the statistics:

Diablo Canyon Power Plant, which sits on approximately 1,000 acres on the Pacific coast, has operated safely since 1985 with its two Westinghouse Pressurized Water Reactor (PWR) units that are licensed until 2024 and 2025 respectively.



The two units produce a total of 18,000 gigawatt-hours of clean and reliable electricity annually, which is enough energy to meet the needs of more than three million Northern and Central Californians (nearly 10% of California's energy portfolio and 20% of the power that PG&E provides throughout its service area).



For years, Diablo Canyon has continued to safely produce clean and reliable energy without greenhouse gases (GHG), avoiding 6 to 7 million tons per year of GHGs that would be emitted by conventional generation resources. Built to withstand extreme natural disasters, including earthquakes, Diablo Canyon's design features state-of-the-art seismic supports.

[luvrbus]

The Palo Verde nuke plant west of Phoenix had 3 part owners from CA so LA and San Diego got 1/2 the power generated now the plant is owned by APS,Salt River and El Paso Electric ,Edison ,Southern Ca Power and LA Water and Power have no say .Phoenix is growing so fast they want to keep the power in AZ I guess.In a 50 mile radius from us they built 3 gas fired power plants about 5 years ago they never produce but 2 months in a years time, that is during the summer when rates go sky high or CA is in blackout,The part that really bugs me is AZ has maybe 30 gas fired plants,around 20 hydro plants ,4 wind farms and no telling how much solar and we pay through the nose for power I think   

[dtcerrato]

Since Japan's Fukushima catastrophy all coastal nuclear power plants have been put on a red list and having a past career in construction of building cooling towers for nukes I can tell you a score of new coastal nukes were scrubbed.

[luvrbus]

Since Japan's Fukushima catastrophy all coastal nuclear power plants have been put on a red list and having a past career in construction of building cooling towers for nukes I can tell you a score of new coastal nukes were scrubbed.

Politics nuke power is the cleanest and most reliable power. out there, they scrubbed the nuke plant in Sealy Tx and built 2 coal fired plants and then converted those to NG costing more than the nuke plant that produced more KW .Nuke plants don't need to be on coast Palo Verde is 300 miles from the ocean the one in Russellville Ar is a long journey from the coast
   

[chessie4905]

Won't  be a problem. Go to wants to build huge wind farms off Ca. coast. Course beautiful view at sunset. This summer, we went past a huge pile of old wind propellers. They weren't  piled to reuse. Wonder what they do with them.

[usbusin]

chessie4905 asked: Wonder what they do with them.

Here is your answer.  Nothing.  Big problem.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2020-02-05/wind-turbine-blades-can-t-be-recycled-so-they-re-piling-up-in-landfills

[Dave5Cs]

Never saw that one before. Maybe grind them up some how and put the powder or pieces in concrete like the do now with FG strands. Or make lumber out of them for decks and siding. What a waste.

[luvrbus]

Never saw that one before. Maybe grind them up some how and put the powder or pieces in concrete like the do now with FG strands. Or make lumber out of them for decks and siding. What a waste.

Those blade are metal with fiber glass carbon coating ,they haven't figured out a economic way to get the toxic glass from the blades to recycle the different metals in the blades I was told

[chessie4905]

They will eventually figure it out or China will buy them, recondition and sell them back to us. Or just bury them along with spent nuclear fuel rods.

[BusNit]

We pay $383 a month during the summer (Mesa Arizona) for a 3050sqft house. I dare not turn on the garage 3 ton mini split otherwise it adds another $80. No solar since we will most likely sell within 10 years and relocate somewhere else. (With land of course!)

Our winter electric bill is $174 or less. House is all electric.

[chessie4905]

pretty good for all electric. ours runs about 225 to 250 a month. ac in summer. coal furnace in winter with oil furnace as backup. Includes days in shop with half of lights on and waste oil furnace.
switched half of lights last year. company went out of business so have to find just as good. 40 more tunes to buy. got tired of constantly changing flourescent.

[TomC]

Commefornia was $.26/kwhr. Idaho is $.115/kwhr. So our $260 July bill would have cost $588 in Commefornia. Good Luck, TomC

[luvrbus]

Commefornia was $.26/kwhr. Idaho is $.115/kwhr. So our $260 July bill would have cost $588 in Commefornia. Good Luck, TomC

Power in the Treasure Valley of Idaho (Boise area) was always higher than what we paid in Garden Valley in Boise County,when we lived in Boise the water bill was $5.00 a month in the winter and $15.00 in the summer no meter times have changed there now 

[windtrader]

Sun is free.

[luvrbus]

Sun is free.

LOL the components to make electricity from the sun is not free,I can tell you that from the prices I am getting