Seat removal - How many hours

[Sebulba]

Hello all,

This should be a quick question for the right guy.

How many hours do you think it takes the remove a set of MCI seat?

While I'm here.  Is there a good place to dispose of them?  Any resale value?  If not...?

Thanks a million,

Seb

[Utahclaimjumper]

Every one works at different rates with different tools,, so the question is moot..>>>Dan

[freds]

Every one works at different rates with different tools,, so the question is moot..>>>Dan

Hey maybe the reason to buy a plasma cutter LOL!!!!

[ktmossman]

How much rust is on them?  Are you trying to preserve them or are they going into the trash.

If they have rusted bolts and you are trying to sell them, it is going to take much longer than if you can fire up a torch/grinder and create some havoc...

[Sebulba]

How much rust is on them?  Are you trying to preserve them or are they going into the trash.

If they have rusted bolts and you are trying to sell them, it is going to take much longer than if you can fire up a torch/grinder and create some havoc...

I like your thinking.  From everything I can see, they aren't of any value.

Can you get a side grinder to the bolts against the wall.

Don't have a bus yet, but trying to anticipate what to do to get it so that I can drive it home. No CDL, you see.

Anyway, make some sparks sounds good.

Seb

[Coach_and_Crown_Guy]

You've mentioned your lack of a Commercial Drivers License, I think before as well. For your uses as a private Vehicle, Non-Commercial, Non-Passenger use at any time, will make you exempt from the need for a CDL. Even if you pick the bus up and it's still fully seated coming out of service, you can make the drive back to your home with no issues. No one I know has been hassled by their lack of holding a CDL, especially for any kind of ferry or new bus pick-up/delivery trip.

Law enforcement is not looking for these kinds of violations and besides, most all buses on the road are mostly invisible to LEOS anyway and they will assume all is proper and leave you alone as long as you drive nicely and don't attract negative attention to yourself.

All you really need when picking up any new (to you) bus, is to have in your possession, for the trip home, is the Bill Of Sale, the signed off release of liability and Title, and some proof of insurance, also a single trip permit which is the registration from the State you bought it in, and good usually for 20 days or so, which will get you home. Have this all in the very unlikely event that you should be asked for them. Proving that you are just buying and ferrying the thing back to your home base.

Also that you are doing your best to do the right thing, that means a lot. For all practical purposes you'll never be bothered. Oh, and don't stop at ANY scales or inspection stations, You are a PRIVATE and Non-Commercial vehicle and not subject to any of their Commercial/Business jurisdiction. All that ever does is to invite the unwanted negative attention of some bored functionary who has no clue but will try to find something to hit you on. Best left alone and bypassed at all times.

Once home the real fun begins with the title transfer and conversion to Motor Home/RV status which will seal for all time the fact that you won't be needing any CDL to drive it. So relax and quit looking for Goblins under the bed, there will be plenty to worry about later, but the lack of a CDL ain't one of them. 

I suppose if you're a complete neophyte and have zero experience in, and are terrified at the prospect of, driving such a large Beasty, it would make sense to find a local driver trainer familiar with whatever you buy and spend some time and money so he can train you up to be safe and confident enough to drive it. I do this all the time for new owners who manage to find me and I haven't lost one yet into any ditches or off cliffs. I do admit that the latest Polar Vortex blizzard in Texas caused some real havoc for one lady and her Crown which I trained her to drive, and another new Crown buyer from So Cal passing through at almost exactly the same time. It was very exciting for them both.

You can do it too and all it takes is the mindset that makes you sure you can learn and master your new toy, many folks manage to make the transition, and it's a fun filled adventure and sure to enhance your enjoyment of your bus.

[hogi6123]

The law in the U.S. says CDL is required if a vehicle has GVW higher than 26000 pounds or is designed to carry more than 16 people.
The weight limit does not apply to vehicles registered as RV and not used for making money, but the passenger limit does.

In many states, a non-CDL class A or B license is required for all vehicles over 26000 lbs gvw including RVs.  This is not stated well on most state web sites.

Many people have driven their buses home without a CDL and had no trouble. 

You probably would be fine but you could end up with a huge headache, especially if you were involved in an accident driving the bus without the required CDL.

Insurance likely requires the proper CDL, or RV registration for non commercial insurance.

Some have hired a CDL holder to drive their bus home.  Then do the minimum to register it as RV, register it, get insurance, get the class B non-CDL (requires a representative vehicle for test drive), and start using it while continuing converting.

[Sebulba]

Wow, fantastic comments all.

Thank you very much.  I ha driven all kinds of trucks, trailers, heavy equipment, etc.  Never a bus though.  It might be nice to a couple hours of instruction from a pro on the idiosyncracies of a coach.

These posts remind me of an experience I had.  We were building a house in MN and wanted to live on the property while we did it. So, I went to a mobile home dealers and bought a condemned trailer for $450.  The wanted to charge me more than that to move it. So I hooked up to it with my 60 HP tractor and took it there myself.

I talked to a sheriff's deputy friend about it and he said "there are no laws against hauling a chicken coop to it's new home" wink, wink. 🤫🤠

All worked out fine.

Thanks for the input

David

[robertglines1]

I see you are thinking ahead. Good I have built 4 buses. Seats were easy out on prevost. Mci I gave them to local school corp that ran one to haul sport teams-They were gone in afternoon!! Prevost stock bathroom fiberglass used sawsall . Mci was all stainless and required much more effort--dynamite comes to mind.  Overhead racks on both contained wiring looms that had to be worked around -front to rear Windows were heavy and you need to reskin or just leave and paint black inside of unused ones ( gives limo tint effect)  Plan on any bus being a treasure of trash and crud inside air vents and ducts.  Importing a bus from canada is a challenge (just ask some of board members. The correct bus for you will say I can't do without it! Ask questions and weigh responses as there is allot of aw-sh t mistakes been made by members.