Who has the ramp that carries the Smart car ? (YouTube video)
 

Who has the ramp that carries the Smart car ? (YouTube video)

Started by someguy, April 12, 2021, 03:10:33 PM

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someguy

Whose bus is in this video ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laa5AW3Hs6M

Is there a write up of the build ?   What was done to the rear frame to do this ?

How about a more in depth video ?

Thanks

luvrbus

I don't do u tube but guessing you are talking about Steve's Prevost that the ramps fold up on the back
Life is short drink the good wine first

David Anderson

Wow, it looks like that car would bounce a lot being that far behind the axle.  Like at the end of a diving board. 
I like the ingenuity though.  I bet he draws a crowd everywhere he goes. 

luvrbus

David,I have not seen it years but a guy at a MAK rally in 2000 (i think) had a Eagle bus he carried a car over the engine at floor level,not my cup of tea but it was well designed his ramps were hidden and were hydraulic   
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someguy

Quote from: David Anderson on April 12, 2021, 05:56:44 PM
Wow, it looks like that car would bounce a lot being that far behind the axle.  Like at the end of a diving board. 

He has a chain on each side holding the ramps.   Should make them pretty stiff ?   

I'm wondering how the structure was beefed up to handle the loads.

usbusin

He has a chain on each side holding the ramps.   Should make them pretty stiff ?

But a chain only works in one direction (tension).  Nothing to keep the ramp from pivoting up.
Gary D

USBUSIN was our 1960 PD4104 for 16 years (150,000 miles)
USTRUCKIN was our 2001 Freightliner Truck Conversion for 19 years (135,000 miles)
We are busless and truckless after 35 years of traveling

Raymond smith

The Eagle with the car over the engine was in Bus conversion magazine years ago. Don't know what year. Will look it up
1957 4104-3632 & 1989 mci 102c3

If it doesn`t fit properly the first time, Get a bigger hammer

Raymond smith

1957 4104-3632 & 1989 mci 102c3

If it doesn`t fit properly the first time, Get a bigger hammer

David Anderson

Quote from: Raymond smith on April 13, 2021, 03:37:37 PM
The Eagle with the car over the engine was in Bus conversion magazine years ago. Don't know what year. Will look it up
I remember that coach.  Very cool design of the back end door that opened.  Didn't he carry a Subaru?

David

luvrbus

Quote from: David Anderson on April 13, 2021, 04:42:22 PM
I remember that coach.  Very cool design of the back end door that opened.  Didn't he carry a Subaru?

David

He had a Mustang too he carried
Life is short drink the good wine first

Raymond smith

1957 4104-3632 & 1989 mci 102c3

If it doesn`t fit properly the first time, Get a bigger hammer

lvmci

The way a bus twists side to side and flexes up and down, the condition of some of the interstates, not to even mention the US Highways, extending the rear of the bus by 8 or 10 feet, the way bus frame structures are under the roof, holding the engine cradle, what could possibly crack under the additional pressures?
   Right now, we are looking at the engine cradle rail trusses, on my bus. cracks in the vertical and angled truss supports, and separated welds, on my 600,000 mile 8V92 engine compartment, WW Williams says this is a common problem! How much more can you way down the bus over the engineered designs, before a catastrophic failure,  where the engine drops out of the bay?
MCI 102C3 8V92, Allison HT740
Formally MCI5A 8V71 Allison MT643
Brandon has really got it going!

someguy

The extra force on the engine cradle is definitely a concern.   People put Hydralifts on the back of their motorhomes and sometimes trailers all the time.   Not sure how they handle the extra force on the frame.

Apparently there is an extra heavy duty frame cradle for when heavy loads are towed behind buses.

The other issue is length.   As far as I know the maximum length of a vehicle in most jurisdictions is 45 feet.   A Smart car adds at least 8 feet to that.

I'd like to haul a couple motorcycles on the back of a bus.  As well as tow a vehicle.

luvrbus

Rv's get a break on length I have friend in Idaho that his truck conversions are 53 ft long check Powerhouse truck conversions they are long 
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DoubleEagle

This should end the turning radius complaints about 45' Eagles. These trucks might have trouble in campgrounds.
Walter
Dayton, Ohio
1975 Silvereagle Model 05, 8V71, 4 speed Spicer
1982 Eagle Model 10, 6V92, 5 speed Spicer
1984 Eagle Model 10, 6V92 w/Jacobs, Allison HT740
1994 Eagle Model 15-45, Series 60 w/Jacobs, HT746