Electric Toad

[chessie4905]

government policies will determine speed of change. large rebates, tax penalties for using gas or diesel, etc. Europe had/has that incentive with high fuel taxes on gas and low on diesel for years.
saving money is always an incentive.
why was there such resistance when unleaded fuel came about. If they made it a few cents cheaper rather than more, would have been smoother transition. Remember removing fuel filler neck restrictions to be able to add leaded and removing converters.
Currently on the pickup diesel forums, many are removing converters and deleting the def systems. modding the factory software is a moneymaker for some outfits.

[belfert]

LOL some pickups cost more than a Telsa

I was thinking more about the model S that starts at $70k and goes up to $145k.

[Lin]

It sure does look like electric vehicles are coming on strong, but how things will unfold and how fast remains to be seen.  Generally, when experts predict the future they are wrong.  Weren't we supposed to be driving hover craft by now?

Anyway, I think that we are going in for a Tesla.  Well their solar roof anyway.  I need a roof and wanted to try solar, so it seems like a natural.

[Jim Blackwood]

Where are they with the solar cells that come in a big roll and can be rolled out on the roof like a tarp? Got that one done yet? Seems like that's what will be needed to reach those lofty goals. Needs to be as cheap as conventional shingles and wind and waterproof naturally.

Jim

[freds]

They just announced that the new Rivians would start delivery in June of 2021.

They will have a range of over 300 miles.

They have more than 800 hp and more than 900 ft lbs of torque available, can do 0 - 60 in 3 seconds.

There will be an 8 year 175,000 mile warrantee.

I will not be buying one anytime soon with a Price tag of Between $70,000 and $80,000.

I could find no mention on the Rivian Website of the RV towing capabilities.

Overall I like the concept and look of these vehicles.

They are also apparently contracted with Amazon to build 100,000 Electric Delivery vehicles.

Peter   

Heck have priced a top of the line ford powerstroke recently?

[peterbylt]

Another one is the GM Hummer EV.  https://www.gmc.com/electric/hummer-ev

The statistics are very similar.

MSRP between $80,000 and $113,000

300+ mile range

Pickup or SUV

0 -60 in approx. 3 seconds

1,000 HP and 11,500 Ft Lbs. Torque.
That's not a typo the GM website says 11,500 Ft Lbs. Torque, Wow, with kind of Torque you could have the Bus as the Toad!

GMC expects HUMMER EV production to begin fall 2021.

I cannot find any indication that it will be able to be flat towed, but all the pictures of them have these nifty tow hooks already in the front bumper that would make hooking up to a tow bar simple.

I have also not seen anything about a tow charge feature on the Hummers.

Peter   

[Jim Blackwood]

That's 300 miles OR 1000hp. Not both.

Jim

[6805eagleguy]

Look carefully. Most evs measure torque at the hub