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what anti freeze

Started by CRM_66, September 15, 2020, 02:39:10 PM

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Jriddle

When I changed my engine for another that was new to me I went to the local heavy diesel repair shop. They are affiliated with a fluid distributor that sells stuff like oil and antifreeze. I did decide to go with the 50/50 blend they recommended and it was green in color. I was not going to go to the local big box store or the internet to save money on this. The place I was at had high mineral well water and I didn't want to fool around finding mineral free water and mixing it. I hoped by spending a little up front I would save in the end without major problems. As always people can take advantage of you. I went to this business for this antifreeze because they have a good reputation.  I thought it was the right thing to do for my new to me 6V92 engine. If I find out later that they purposely mislead me and I have major problems I will let others know. The reason is so they don't get into a business deal with out first knowing what could happen. I hope people would warn me up front if a business is not reparable.

:)
John
John Riddle
Townsend MT
1984 MC9

Jim Blackwood

You can still buy distilled water just about anywhere for about $1 a gallon. If the 50/50 mix cost $1 more for 2 gallons than full strength cost for 1 gallon I'd buy it. But it doesn't so I won't.

Jim
I saw it on the Internet. It MUST be true...

Jriddle

Quote from: Jim Blackwood on September 19, 2020, 01:30:55 PM
You can still buy distilled water just about anywhere for about $1 a gallon. If the 50/50 mix cost $1 more for 2 gallons than full strength cost for 1 gallon I'd buy it. But it doesn't so I won't.

Jim

I left out part of the story. My brother in-law has School buses and he uses that kind of antifreeze also. He recommended the place to do business. I'm not sure what I paid but felt reasonably happy it was an ok deal.  I owed him a few gallons so I got what he used as it was the same they recommended for my application. I didn't ask them to break cases as I figured it would be cheaper to by bulk lol. Thanks for the heads up though. I also sent my wife to get the stuff and didn't want to complicate the order lol.

:^
John
John Riddle
Townsend MT
1984 MC9

chessie4905

Collect water from a clean dehumidifier and use it.
GMC h8h 649#028 (4905)
Pennsylvania-central

fortyniner

Following along this thread one of the take aways is to use compatible additive and test strip system.

But I find it somewhat irritating when looking for additives and test strips because the same brand may have more than
one formulation which introduces some uncertainty on compatibility.

For example
Baldwin CTK5029 test strips.
Baldwin CS5009  Coolant System Treatment

Nothing in the test strip description specifically states these strips are designed for CS5009.

I somewhat reluctant to take my chances on a counter guy who  may or may not know what goes with what.

-Tom P.





Tom Phillips
PD4106-453
PD4106-2864
87 Alfa Milano
93 Range Rover
87 190e-16 Mercedes
92 Jeep Comanche

luvrbus

Quote from: fortyniner on September 20, 2020, 06:57:40 AM
Following along this thread one of the take aways is to use compatible additive and test strip system.

But I find it somewhat irritating when looking for additives and test strips because the same brand may have more than
one formulation which introduces some uncertainty on compatibility.

For example
Baldwin CTK5029 test strips.
Baldwin CS5009  Coolant System Treatment

Nothing in the test strip description specifically states these strips are designed for CS5009.

I somewhat reluctant to take my chances on a counter guy who  may or may not know what goes with what.

-Tom P.

yep some test strips are useless they only test the freezing point and Ph
Life is short drink the good wine first

chessie4905

GMC h8h 649#028 (4905)
Pennsylvania-central

luvrbus

Life is short drink the good wine first

chessie4905

 I used one of these after seeing them on military vehicles and no scale build up on radiator tubes. I used the one with the anti cavitation additive with green standard coolant on a 6.2 diesel.
GMC h8h 649#028 (4905)
Pennsylvania-central

luvrbus

Quote from: chessie4905 on September 20, 2020, 10:34:37 AM
I used one of these after seeing them on military vehicles and no scale build up on radiator tubes. I used the one with the anti cavitation additive with green standard coolant on a 6.2 diesel.

You can't use the chemical release filter with the pre charged extended life antifreeze  I was told by Cummins when they changed my antifreeze and filter   
Life is short drink the good wine first

chessie4905

Thats right, just for the common green stuff.
GMC h8h 649#028 (4905)
Pennsylvania-central

windtrader

Wow, I'm all confused, again. What the hell. I'm not going to sleep now cause I'm a afraid my new motor is going to fall apart due to the wrong antifreeze. Honestly, aren't we mostly picking over pebble colors here. How many here seriously think the standard glowing green or yellow stuff is a serious problem to these motors?


I'll go dump and swap it all out if that really is the case but it sort of seems a bit nit-picking, which is fine, just good to guide the "casual" busnut to what is in the acceptable zone. thx
Don F
1976 MCI/TMC MC-8 #1286
Fully converted
Bought 2017

fortyniner

Thanks for that link. The SCA level checking procedure was very instructive.

Any suggestions where to plumb in such a filter on a 4106?  Tempting to insert into compressor line but if the filter clogged that might be a problem.

Tom Phillips
PD4106-453
PD4106-2864
87 Alfa Milano
93 Range Rover
87 190e-16 Mercedes
92 Jeep Comanche

chessie4905

There is a  threaded plug at the water pump to plumb in the return and the feed comes from  threaded plug on block.
GMC h8h 649#028 (4905)
Pennsylvania-central

luvrbus

Don run what you like,if you don't take care of the antifreeze you will pay the price,it's  not colors no color looks good running on the ground from the heads you need to use a good heavy duty antifreeze and keep the system in balance
Life is short drink the good wine first