Need help finding a wiring diagram my 1992 60 Series DDEC II.
 

Need help finding a wiring diagram my 1992 60 Series DDEC II.

Started by Busted Knuckle, September 14, 2020, 10:49:07 PM

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Busted Knuckle

Having trouble finding a wiring diagram for the DDEC II !
I can find it for the I, the III, IV, V, VI & VII but for some reason the only way I can find the II is to pay for it before downloading and I am not sure I want to do that as a couple of the others I found were supposed to be the II, but turned out to be the I, and IV!
Anyone have access to the diagram for the II?
:(  BK  :(
Busted Knuckle aka Bryce Gaston
KY Lakeside Travel's Busted Knuckle Garage
Huntingdon, TN 12 minutes N of I-40 @ exit 108
www.kylakesidetravel.net

;D Keep SMILING it makes people wonder what yer up to! ;D (at least thats what momma always told me! ;D)

luvrbus

Bryce if are still having problems when I go home next week I have laminated copies I can send  you one,they have the both the OEM and DDC wiring or I can send you the DDEC ll manual 
Life is short drink the good wine first

Busted Knuckle

Thanks Clifford I will let you know if I get it before then.
;D  BK  ;D
Busted Knuckle aka Bryce Gaston
KY Lakeside Travel's Busted Knuckle Garage
Huntingdon, TN 12 minutes N of I-40 @ exit 108
www.kylakesidetravel.net

;D Keep SMILING it makes people wonder what yer up to! ;D (at least thats what momma always told me! ;D)

belfert

What about trying to find the wiring diagram for a different vehicle that had a DDEC II S60?  They might have the pinouts shown going into the DDEC.  My DINA wiring diagrams have all the lines into the DDEC labeled, but I have a DDEC III.
Brian Elfert - 1995 Dina Viaggio 1000 Series 60/B500 - 75% done but usable - Minneapolis, MN

Busted Knuckle

Brian that's what I have been trying to do, but I don't seem to be getting what I am looking for, at least when I look at it I don't think it's the same as what I have.

My ECM has two 30 pin plugs that are side by side length wise and use a small bolt to hold them in.
The below that are three smaller plugs that just clip in. Two of those have 4 wires (5 pins) white & white  with black stripe. The third one is in between those and has 6 wires/pins the wires are red, black and red with black stripe.

But none of the photos or diagrams I am finding look or read that way (at least to me)
;D  BK  ;D
Busted Knuckle aka Bryce Gaston
KY Lakeside Travel's Busted Knuckle Garage
Huntingdon, TN 12 minutes N of I-40 @ exit 108
www.kylakesidetravel.net

;D Keep SMILING it makes people wonder what yer up to! ;D (at least thats what momma always told me! ;D)

Van

B&B CoachWorks
Bus Shop Mafia.
Now in N. Cakalaki

Busted Knuckle

 :^

OK so Van called me this afternoon while he was looking at a DDEC II manual and told me mine is definitely a II and he confirmed the plug set up just like mine as well as telling that A,B E,F terminals on the 6 pin plug are hot wires and the 2 in the middle C & D are grounds.

So now I positively know which wires I am tracing to hopefully find fuses/breakers.
If not I will temporarily run a jumper to see if it will start!
He also sent me pictures and it confirms our discussion!

I have tomorrow off so I will be spending time at the bus trying  to get it fired up!

Thanks again Van, for the call and pictures!
;D  BK  ;D
Busted Knuckle aka Bryce Gaston
KY Lakeside Travel's Busted Knuckle Garage
Huntingdon, TN 12 minutes N of I-40 @ exit 108
www.kylakesidetravel.net

;D Keep SMILING it makes people wonder what yer up to! ;D (at least thats what momma always told me! ;D)

luvrbus

Quote from: Busted Knuckle on September 16, 2020, 03:53:12 PM
:^

OK so Van called me this afternoon while he was looking at a DDEC II manual and told me mine is definitely a II and he confirmed the plug set up just like mine as well as telling that A,B E,F terminals on the 6 pin plug are hot wires and the 2 in the middle C & D are grounds.

So now I positively know which wires I am tracing to hopefully find fuses/breakers.
If not I will temporarily run a jumper to see if it will start!
He also sent me pictures and it confirms our discussion!

I have tomorrow off so I will be spending time at the bus trying  to get it fired up!

Thanks again Van, for the call and pictures!
;D  BK  ;D
Van has the application manual to that will really help you understand the DDEC,I keep him loaded with information on the DDEC,does that bus have any interlocks like a wheel chair ramp you can find several interlocks programed that will keep the engine from starting have you cut any wires ? .some MCI's have a seat belt interlock the engine will not start unless sitting in the drivers seat a real PITA   
Life is short drink the good wine first

chessie4905

Harbor freight has a neat wire tracer that works really well. Centech cable tracker $24.00. Clip little sending unit to one end of wire. use receiver to pinpoint other end. Ive used mine to track wires from front to back of coach.
GMC h8h 649#028 (4905)
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