Roof access ladder
 

Roof access ladder

Started by windtrader, June 18, 2020, 09:46:39 PM

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windtrader

Trying to decide which method to adopt for accessing the roof from the outside. Standalone/folding ladder seems typical but ladders attached onto the rear are appealing. For added security, having the bottom rung 5'-6' up is a reasonable deterrent. Short portable, stowed ladder for access to fixed upper ladder.


Extending ladder is another option but consumes bay storage. The folding ones seem bulky as well. The telescoping design is novel but the standard model cost $$$.
Don F
1976 MCI/TMC MC-8 #1286
Fully converted
Bought 2017

richard5933

We use a telescoping ladder. Get one longer than you think you need - ours is 16' and is long enough to safely get on the roof. It straps to the side of the bay. You can see the feet to the right of the folding bike in the photo.
Richard
1974 GMC P8M4108a-125 Custom Coach "Land Cruiser" (Sold)
1964 GM PD4106-2412 (Former Bus)
1994 Airstream Excella 25-ft w/ 1999 Suburban 2500
Located in beautiful Wisconsin

bobofthenorth

I got one at an RV salvage and mounted it so that it stopped at the top of the engine doors. Then I carried a 6 foot step ladder sitting on the bumper and strapped to the roof ladder.  The step ladder was really handy and got used for everything including occasional roof access. 
R.J.(Bob) Evans
Used to be 1981 Prevost 8-92, 10 spd
Currently busless (and not looking)

The last thing I would ever want to do is hurt you.
Its the last thing but its still on the list.

Jim Blackwood

I'm thinking about using the emergency exits for roof access. No more than I will use it, maybe I can even build steps (shelves) into the cabinetry. I also plan to install ventilators of some type in the hatches themselves and something to  prevent them from opening all the way to where they lay on the roof. Makes them hard to close from inside. Possibly gas struts could work.

Jim
I saw it on the Internet. It MUST be true...

Gary Hatt - Publisher BCM

1999 Prevost H3-45
Gary@BusConversionMagazine.com

Jim Blackwood

Sure, and you could loop the belay line around your roof air.

Jim
I saw it on the Internet. It MUST be true...

Dave5Cs

Don
Real close to you on West Elcamino. He will have most of the RV parts you think you ever need. He have many ladders up on the wall in the back. You can go through the place and make sure you go upstairs too. New and used parts. :D

http://rvdoctorgeorge.com/parts/
"Perfect Frequency"1979 MCI MC5Cs 6V-71,644MT Allison.
2001 Jeep Cherokee Sport 60th Anniversary edition.
1998 Jeep TJ ,(Gone)
Somewhere in the USA fulltiming.

windtrader

@richard - It seems of the extending ladders, the style you have is most compact but also more costly.

@bob - your setup is what I am considering but I'm still trying to squeeze a few more quarters for a folder but cheap is hard to break.A simple extending ladder might be an option but storing is not great.
@Jim - There is a roof vent for access but mostly for emergency escape, not for main roof access. Dragging tools and supplies through the bedroom and jumping on the bed are at best a rare event in my coach.
@Dave - definitively will check out RV service/parts ally on W El Camino. Thanks
Don F
1976 MCI/TMC MC-8 #1286
Fully converted
Bought 2017

dtcerrato

We have the permanently mounted fold down steps (4) on our bus with a grab handle on the roof. The rear tire gets you started off the ground to the 1st fold down step. It's great cause it's always there & ready to climb.
Dan & Sandy
North Central Florida
PD4104-129 since 1979
Toads: 2009 Jeep GC Limited 4X4 5.7L Hemi
             2008 GMC Envoy SLT 4x4 4.2L IL Vortec

windtrader

Dan, I can't see the ladder on the bus?
Don F
1976 MCI/TMC MC-8 #1286
Fully converted
Bought 2017

richard5933

Any type of permanently mounted ladder is going to be limited in its value. It will only serve to get you on the roof. That's all.

True, the telescoping ladder cost a few dollars, but to me the added value made it worth while. If you can only get on top of the bus with your ladder, it will be useless when you have to work on things which are not on the roof but which are still too high to reach from the ground. I've used my dozens of times to do things like reseal under marker lights, replace bulbs, etc. It also comes in handy when I need a ladder at a campground to hang a light from a tree or trim a branch which is in our way.
Richard
1974 GMC P8M4108a-125 Custom Coach "Land Cruiser" (Sold)
1964 GM PD4106-2412 (Former Bus)
1994 Airstream Excella 25-ft w/ 1999 Suburban 2500
Located in beautiful Wisconsin

dtcerrato

10-4 on permanent vs. portable. We stow a three step fold down stool that can reach anything on the bus below the roof line. As far as the bus " roof access ladder" is concerned - from the bus roof standpoint permanent  is invaluable. Portability is peripheral to this post's title. When on the home front near the bus barn we have our choice of ladders from 2' step ladder to 40' extension ladders. We toot a different horn when traveling...
Dan & Sandy
North Central Florida
PD4104-129 since 1979
Toads: 2009 Jeep GC Limited 4X4 5.7L Hemi
             2008 GMC Envoy SLT 4x4 4.2L IL Vortec

dtcerrato

WT look between the rear awning arm and the long sliding window. There are three small fold down steps on the side wall above the rear duals, another small fold down step on the roof curvature, and a grab handle farther up from the top fold down step on the curvature. The steps are unfolded as you climb up on the roof and folded back against the body on the way down if it's only one trip. The steps are spring loaded to hold either the fold down or fold up position. We love them. No storage needed. They're right there where they belong and IMO don't degrade esthetics at all - in fact they are quite the conversation point during their use otherwise they are hardly noticable! Lol
Dan & Sandy
North Central Florida
PD4104-129 since 1979
Toads: 2009 Jeep GC Limited 4X4 5.7L Hemi
             2008 GMC Envoy SLT 4x4 4.2L IL Vortec

lostagain

I recently bought a used 13.5' telescoping ladder for less than half new price at an auction. I also see them occasionally on FB Marketplace. Keep an eye out for one.

I used to carry an 8' ladder in the baggage tank against the wall. Hardly uses any space. 

A little 3' step ladder is handy too.

JC
JC
Blackie AB
1977 MC5C, 6V92/HT740 (sold)
2007 Country Coach Magna, Cummins ISX (sold)

DoubleEagle

Quote from: windtrader on June 19, 2020, 09:26:09 PM
Dan, I can't see the ladder on the bus?

Dan's system of fold down steps is very discrete, and will keep slackard's from climbing up on the roof. Those fold-downs were used in one of my Eagles for getting into the bunks inside.
Walter
Dayton, Ohio
1975 Silvereagle Model 05, 8V71, 4 speed Spicer
1982 Eagle Model 10, 6V92, 5 speed Spicer
1984 Eagle Model 10, 6V92 w/Jacobs, Allison HT740
1994 Eagle Model 15-45, Series 60 w/Jacobs, HT746