Need a momentary switch and advice

chessie4905 · July 18, 2019, 10:39:11 AM

Sorry, missed that. I've looked up a lot of rocker switches and none have momentary one side only. My guess is that the spring inside the switch is designed that they can't only do one side. You would have to take one apart to see if it can be changed, but, I doubt it. I use a toggle switch for that combination in my coach.

Geoff · July 18, 2019, 12:16:49 PM

I thought the eBay link I gave you would do what you need, but maybe you didn't read it.

somewhereinusa · July 18, 2019, 03:06:01 PM

Here's some on ebay.

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m570.l1313&_nkw=dpdt+momentary+one+way&_sacat=0&LH_TitleDesc=0&_osacat=0&_odkw=dpdt+momentary

They all seem to be from the same seller, just different quantities.

chessie4905 · July 18, 2019, 03:32:28 PM

Yes, they are easily available in toggle switches, but he wants a rocker switch.

richard5933 · July 18, 2019, 03:41:30 PM

See the first reply I posted with a link to a rocker switch. They are easily found all over the internet and even in some local auto parts stores.

And here's a SPDT rocker switch from Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Sierra-International-RK19430-1-Resistant-Off-Mom/dp/B00B4C8HQ2/ref=sr_1_20?keywords=rocker+on-off-mom&qid=1563489588&s=automotive&sr=1-20

and a DPDT rocker from Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Sierra-International-RK19930-1-Resistant-Neoprene/dp/B00B4C9SHO/ref=sr_1_24?keywords=rocker+on-off-mom&qid=1563489646&s=automotive&sr=1-24

chessie4905 · July 18, 2019, 06:36:00 PM

That first one is momentary on both sides, according to description. I suspect the other one may be the same.
The second one is momentary on both sides also

https://www.boatersland.com/sierk19550-1.html

richard5933 · July 18, 2019, 07:11:48 PM

Quote from: chessie4905 on July 18, 2019, 06:36:00 PM
That first one is momentary on both sides, according to description. I suspect the other one may be the same.
The second one is momentary on both sides also

https://www.boatersland.com/sierk19550-1.html

Looks like Amazon has the listing title different from the listing description. Wouldn't be the first time. My point was that they are out there.

Here's a link to the switch body from a place that lets you really customize the switch to get it configured how you need:

https://rockerswitchpros.com/product/v7d1-a60b/

And here's the page where you can customize the actuator (rocker) part:

https://rockerswitchpros.com/switch-actuators/

Site actually looks pretty cool - a little more money but you can design the switch to say whatever you need.

Scott & Heather · July 19, 2019, 03:16:28 AM

Geoff,

I did indeed search eBay for 12 volt remotes but they are all merely on and off. I need to start the generator and shut it down. The on and off remotes wouldn't do that. The remote start kits for cars have a shut down timer which isn't easily defeatible either...so that's out. The easiest most reliable thing for me to do was extend the wiring harness on the generators up into the living area of the bus. I did that without any issue. But now I just need rocker switches which it looks like I can find online at some of the links posted here. Much thanks for those links. Thanks for the help. Now I know what they are called and can find something that works for me.

I have installed mom on both sides switches in the meantime and my system is up and running and works flawlessly. Cliff, the original key start on these Honda's doesn't unload them. You have to manually unload them before you shutdown, so I guess I I've always done that and didn't see the need to spend $400 on a set of two systems when I could build my own for $100.

chessie4905 · July 19, 2019, 03:54:18 AM

Those switches look to be just what he needs. Definitely not a common rocker switch. I wonder if they will sell only one. I like that you can get custom covers etched. Great find.

Geoff · July 19, 2019, 06:28:57 AM

The switches I was talking about use a FOB and stay on until you release the button. Oh well, worked for me.

Oh, I should add that while ideally you want to take the load off the Genny before you shut her down I have had so many instances of the generator shutting down from heat at full load I don't worry about that anymore,. I just concentrate on keeping it running cool so it doesn't shut down.

Jim Blackwood · July 19, 2019, 07:09:02 AM

Wouldn't MCI rocker switches work?

Jim

chessie4905 · July 19, 2019, 12:09:26 PM

They should if they have one that is on-off-momentary on.

Scott & Heather · July 20, 2019, 06:29:38 PM

Quote from: Geoff on July 19, 2019, 06:28:57 AM
The switches I was talking about use a FOB and stay on until you release the button. Oh well, worked for me.

Oh, I should add that while ideally you want to take the load off the Genny before you shut her down I have had so many instances of the generator shutting down from heat at full load I don't worry about that anymore,. I just concentrate on keeping it running cool so it doesn't shut down.

Geoff, ok now my interest is peaked. Help me find the ones you used...I'm interested...if I can hold down the button and it activates the starter until it's let go and then the other button shuts it down...that would work for me.

Geoff · July 21, 2019, 11:38:24 AM

Okay-- FOB activated on-off remote switches.
Paste this on eBay:

12v remote control switch

You'll see a bunch of boxes and key FOBs. Hook the start switch to one, the stop switch to stop. As long as you are pushing on either button it will stay activated. So it will work on the stop that requires a long wait.

What you will need is a 4 unit model since you have two generators. A 4 unit will use 4 different frequencies controlled by the FOBs.

Instructions are included and they sell cheap from China. I've had one on my Honda air compressor for a couple of years.