replacing wheel bearing and seal

luvrbus · March 31, 2019, 09:05:11 AM

You still have the front, lol doesn't sound like you breaking from OEM as much as you use your bus and I hope it doesn't come back and bite you

David Anderson · March 31, 2019, 11:18:12 AM

Quote from: luvrbus on March 31, 2019, 09:05:11 AM
You still have the front, lol doesn't sound like you breaking from OEM as much as you use your bus and I hope it doesn't come back and bite you

Not sure what you mean? You talking about changing oil to grease? Luke recommended it.

luvrbus · March 31, 2019, 12:03:46 PM

Quote from: David Anderson on March 31, 2019, 11:18:12 AM
Not sure what you mean? You talking about changing oil to grease? Luke recommended it.

Ok follow his recommendations but it makes no sense if the spindle is not worn and won't take a oil seal IMO.Only time I ever saw one leak is because of to much run out play because the bearing were wearing allowing to much runout (end play).The point I am making is your system ran for 102,000 miles and now you are going to system you need to remove the bogie wheels in 40 to 50,000 mile and do it again there was reason Eagle went to oil type in the 60's

David Anderson · March 31, 2019, 01:19:05 PM

I agree with you, but I'm amazed at how fast it let go when it let go. It showed no sign of oil on the hub cap or wheel front. It was all in the back on the brake shoes. If I hadn't crawled under the coach and looked around I wouldn't have seen it. I confess I did not check oil level often, but will from now on. Any sign of a fallen oil level requires a thorough investigation immediately.

In one way it is making me replace the brakes which doesn't really hurt that bad. It is going to run about $250 per wheel. Shoes, bearing sets, and seal.

chessie4905 · March 31, 2019, 01:49:13 PM

Oil seals are great, but when they fail, they make a hell of a mess. Usually out on the road on a trip.

luvrbus · March 31, 2019, 02:16:13 PM

Quote from: chessie4905 on March 31, 2019, 01:49:13 PM
Oil seals are great, but when they fail, they make a hell of a mess. Usually out on the road on a trip.

Grease makes a mess when a bearing fails without warning and you usually have fire.no way would I change over but it is Davids dime and I have knew David for a long time and this kinda shocks me him changing.Stuffing a hub 1/2 full of grease on packed bearing did I read that right ?

David Anderson · March 31, 2019, 06:24:40 PM

I haven't decided yet. I have been searching the web for answers. Not too much out there about grease, but lots about oil. The plus side to oil is that when you have a failure it is easier to see and you still have bearings left. The down side is you ruin a set of shoes.
With grease you have no warning. After all the reading I've done I will probably stay with oil.

It has been over 100k miles, so I'm going to force myself to inspect all the wheels. It is the prudent thing to do. I want to finish the bogies first, then attack the others. Got to get the right shoes tomorrow by calling the counter guy that sold me the wrong ones.

David

buswarrior · March 31, 2019, 06:33:04 PM

Why are wheel seals being run to failure?

Grease or oil, a busnut needs to disassemble the wheel ends with an eye on the calendar, not just the low mileage we typically do.

We can argue how many months or years apart a busnut should tear down and inspect bearings and brakes, and put a fresh seal as good preventive maintenance, but we shouldn't need to argue that running until failure isn't a good strategy?

On your pre-trip, a knee on the ground and a flashlight to the opposite inner wheel for evidence of lube sling, same as the real bus and truck drivers?

happy coaching!
buswarrior

David Anderson · March 31, 2019, 08:15:38 PM

Quote from: buswarrior on March 31, 2019, 06:33:04 PM

On your pre-trip, a knee on the ground and a flashlight to the opposite inner wheel for evidence of lube sling, same as the real bus and truck drivers?

happy coaching!
buswarrior

Agree, it will be from now on. Much more diligence on my part in the future

Geoff · April 01, 2019, 10:36:30 AM

My RTS runs grease front and rear. It's true that it is a maintenance item. I hadn't packed mine for 50,000-60,000 miles and one day I heard the FR wheel squeaking. Took the next exit and parked it, had my wife pick me up and came back with my service truck

Luckily I had caught it quick enough so there was no damage to the bearing. Just repacked it and towed my service truck home (50 miles).

David Anderson · April 01, 2019, 05:59:49 PM

Got the right shoes today. They didn't have them in stock so they rebuilt my old ones. Got both sides installed and ready for hub replacement tomorrow.

oldmansax · April 02, 2019, 05:19:07 AM

Here is part one of three videos on replacing wheel bearings and seals. Lots of help and info:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8-XL4E4m7o

TOM

David Anderson · April 02, 2019, 06:37:39 AM

Quote from: oldmansax on April 02, 2019, 05:19:07 AM
Here is part one of three videos on replacing wheel bearings and seals. Lots of help and info:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A8-XL4E4m7o

TOM

Thanks Tom, that is one of several I watched. Very helpful. I'm sure glad people take time to record those things. It is so helpful.

luvrbus · April 02, 2019, 07:49:30 AM

The manufactures videos are a good resource some on Utube are for entertainment lol and not real good entertainment

chessie4905 · April 02, 2019, 08:04:21 AM

If you are somewhat clueless and refer to U-tube for help, it is best to view several on same subject and weed out uncommon suggestions. There are many idiots posting flawed information.