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Wiring bus for 50amp 240 for mini split

Started by Jcparmley, October 02, 2018, 03:49:12 PM

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Jcparmley

Yes you are right.  I apologize for my tone.

Quote from: Fred Mc on October 03, 2018, 01:06:43 PM
I tend to "shoot my face off" on occasion and that works OK on  political boards and discussion groups where you don't really care what others think of you.
But on occasion when I feel the "urge" to say something sarcastic on this board I alway remind my self that I may (probably) will need some help on occasion and the last thing I want is for people on here to say "he's an @$# and I'm not going to help him". I'm sure EVERYONE on here who has a bus has, at one time or another, requested help.And, if you really need to make a comment that someone may take the wrong way, imojies  :) ;) :D ;D >:(are a great help.
1989 MCI 102c3 6v92TA Mechanical

DoubleEagle

Quote from: luvrbus on October 03, 2018, 10:33:04 AM
LOL I thought this only happen in politics I heard the stuff called 120/240, 115/230 or 110/220 I guess mine is 115/230 in the shop every leg is 115 volts

Most utilities that I have been tied to provided 125/250 Volts, according to my Fluke, further complicating the whole voltage debacle.  ::)
Walter
Dayton, Ohio
1975 Silvereagle Model 05, 8V71, 4 speed Spicer
1982 Eagle Model 10, 6V92, 5 speed Spicer
1984 Eagle Model 10, 6V92 w/Jacobs, Allison HT740
1994 Eagle Model 15-45, Series 60 w/Jacobs, HT746

richard5933

The confusion lies in the fact that the US started with a 110v/220v system when Edison first put wires in the streets. It was later upped to 112v-117v with 117v becoming the standard after WWII. In 1967 the standard voltage in US home became 120v/240v. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mains_electricity)
Richard
1974 GMC P8M4108a-125 Custom Coach "Land Cruiser" (Sold)
1964 GM PD4106-2412 (Former Bus)
1994 Airstream Excella 25-ft w/ 1999 Suburban 2500
Located in beautiful Wisconsin

Jcparmley

Richard, we should get together sometime.  I am just west of Madison.  I'm sure you could give me quite an education on bus stuff.

Quote from: richard5933 on October 03, 2018, 03:55:08 PM
The confusion lies in the fact that the US started with a 110v/220v system when Edison first put wires in the streets. It was later upped to 112v-117v with 117v becoming the standard after WWII. In 1967 the standard voltage in US home became 120v/240v. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mains_electricity)
1989 MCI 102c3 6v92TA Mechanical

Jcparmley

Richard
Is there a service station in the general area that knows busses well enough to diagnose the OTR ac system?  I'm not sure who in the Madison / Milwaukee area knows busses.

Quote from: richard5933 on October 03, 2018, 03:55:08 PM
The confusion lies in the fact that the US started with a 110v/220v system when Edison first put wires in the streets. It was later upped to 112v-117v with 117v becoming the standard after WWII. In 1967 the standard voltage in US home became 120v/240v. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mains_electricity)
1989 MCI 102c3 6v92TA Mechanical

richard5933

Quote from: Jcparmley on October 03, 2018, 04:28:53 PM
Richard
Is there a service station in the general area that knows busses well enough to diagnose the OTR ac system?  I'm not sure who in the Madison / Milwaukee area knows busses.

Lakeside International in Milwaukee has a very good a/c tech. They replaced the compressor on our bus. They do a lot of work on buses.

There has got to be a place nearer to you though.... I just checked and see that Lakeside has a location in Madison. Give them a call.
Richard
1974 GMC P8M4108a-125 Custom Coach "Land Cruiser" (Sold)
1964 GM PD4106-2412 (Former Bus)
1994 Airstream Excella 25-ft w/ 1999 Suburban 2500
Located in beautiful Wisconsin

Jim Eh.

"Some days it's just not worth chewing through the restraints"
Jim Eh.
1996 MC12
6V92TA / HT741D
Winnipeg, MB.

Jcparmley

Awesome.  Thanks for the referral. 

Quote from: richard5933 on October 03, 2018, 04:43:11 PM
Lakeside International in Milwaukee has a very good a/c tech. They replaced the compressor on our bus. They do a lot of work on buses.

There has got to be a place nearer to you though.... I just checked and see that Lakeside has a location in Madison. Give them a call.
1989 MCI 102c3 6v92TA Mechanical

richard5933

Where ever you take it for service, bring your service manual and parts book. They likely won't have them and they'll be very helpful. Especially for a/c, knowing the factory settings is key.
Richard
1974 GMC P8M4108a-125 Custom Coach "Land Cruiser" (Sold)
1964 GM PD4106-2412 (Former Bus)
1994 Airstream Excella 25-ft w/ 1999 Suburban 2500
Located in beautiful Wisconsin

Oonrahnjay

Quote from: richard5933 on October 03, 2018, 03:55:08 PMThe confusion lies in the fact that the US started with a 110v/220v system when Edison first put wires in the streets. It was later upped to 112v-117v with 117v becoming the standard after WWII. In 1967 the standard voltage in US home became 120v/240v. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mains_electricity

     Yes, the standardized modern reference is 120V/240V, for the ordinary current supplied in N. America (and some other countries in the world).  . 
Bruce H; Wallace (near Wilmington) NC
1976 Daimler (British) Double-Decker Bus; 34' long

(New Email -- brucebearnc@ (theGoogle gmail place) .com)

TomC

Yes it is supposed to be 120/240v. But-reading from a volt meter can misleading. Many outside forces can lower that line voltage to appear like 115/230v. What starts as one voltage at the generating plant, may not necessarily end up as the same at your house. Even with a step down transformer on the pole a few houses down, wire size, if your neighbor is using electricity, etc can lower your voltage meter reading. Good Luck, TomC
Tom & Donna Christman. 1985 Kenworth 40ft Super C with garage. '77 AMGeneral 10240B; 8V-71TATAIC V730.

Geoff

I was a campsite where you were lucky to have enough 120/30 amp power to run one roof air.  But I was able to run two roof airs by using my Trace SW2512MC.  When the second air would kick on, the inverter would instantly supply power from the battery bank and after that, start charging again.  Love it.  No brownouts with the Trace.

When and if I have to replace the Trace inverter, I will have to go for the Magnum Hybrid that does the same thing (I hope!).

P.S. JC and I are okay .
Geoff
'82 RTS AZ

Jcparmley

Geoff

Do you use roof air or mini split?

Quote from: Geoff on October 04, 2018, 01:50:44 PM
I was a campsite where you were lucky to have enough 120/30 amp power to run one roof air.  But I was able to run two roof airs by using my Trace SW2512MC.  When the second air would kick on, the inverter would instantly supply power from the battery bank and after that, start charging again.  Love it.  No brownouts with the Trace.

When and if I have to replace the Trace inverter, I will have to go for the Magnum Hybrid that does the same thing (I hope!).

P.S. JC and I are okay .
1989 MCI 102c3 6v92TA Mechanical

Dave5Cs

Yep Geoff they will kick in. We run 2 big Coleman on 30 Amp and if we use coffee pot or something else our 4024 Hybrid kicks in to take up any needed extra. :)
"Perfect Frequency"1979 MCI MC5Cs 6V-71,644MT Allison.
2001 Jeep Cherokee Sport 60th Anniversary edition.
1998 Jeep TJ ,(Gone)
Somewhere in the USA fulltiming.

Geoff

I run three Coleman Mac 15k BTUs.  Two have heat pumps.  I don't want to use my bays for A/C split units.
Geoff
'82 RTS AZ