Is this a deal ?

eagle19952 · May 13, 2018, 09:31:24 PM

Found on Facebook...

Will delete if not allowed ?

Not my bus.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/292563017883?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649

eagle19952 · May 13, 2018, 09:32:52 PM

windtrader · May 13, 2018, 10:45:17 PM

answer: no. That thing has been for sale for a year, broken down in Fresno.
UPDATE - I stand corrected. This is a different one that the one I was thinking of. sorry.

richard5933 · May 14, 2018, 03:40:53 AM

Never seen the skeleton of one of these before. How does a bus with that much glass and so little structure have any strength above the waistline?

Jeremy · May 14, 2018, 05:57:42 AM

The structure is very very similar to mine, and the windows are almost identical in size I would say (except mine are bonded in). The aluminium seat rails and the ducting down the sides are the same too, but mine still has the steel inner panels over the tubing which (I presume) have been removed on this one. My floor paneling is plywood rather than OSB, and mine has a dropped centre aisle. As to whether it's strong enough? Presumably it must be - and think of how the body of a S&S compares.

Jeremy

luvrbus · May 14, 2018, 06:06:22 AM

Quote from: richard5933 on May 14, 2018, 03:40:53 AM
Never seen the skeleton of one of these before. How does a bus with that much glass and so little structure have any strength above the waistline?

Think of it as a bridge if that makes sense to you one of the strongest design buses made, all manufactures use that design now

lostagain · May 14, 2018, 07:15:22 AM

Used buses are getting cheaper all the time. That is because charter companies buy or lease new cars and turn them over every five years. And that is because the higher end travel companies demand no less than five year old buses. Hell some of them have to have this year's model. They insist on seat belts, WiFi, 110V outlets at every leather seat, premium audio/video system, their name brand wrapped on the bus, a mat with their name on it that the driver has to plunk down on the ground at the bottom of the stairs at every stop... And there appears to be good money for everybody from travel agents, to luxury hotels, to local attractions, to charter bus companies from this high end travel segment. There are lots of people with the money for this kind of travel. All that is to say that there is hardly a market for an old bus like that.

JC

brmax · May 14, 2018, 07:30:23 AM

I like it, but im already busy.
Something Im pretty sure about in fleets is the fact they are serious about warranties. Much more now days with regards towards the electronics. These I mean the drive train and body computers, that are really common today and 15 years ago. So its a cycle they use or gamble with.

Good day
Floyd

ps: i still like it, but heck it's new so who wouldn't

Oonrahnjay · May 14, 2018, 07:37:16 AM

Quote from: brmax on May 14, 2018, 07:30:23 AMI like it, but im already busy.
Something Im pretty sure about in fleets is the fact they are serious about warranties. Much more now days with regards towards the electronics. These I mean the drive train and body computers, that are really common today and 15 years ago. So its a cycle they use or gamble with.

Good day
Floyd

ps: i still like it, but heck it's new so who wouldn't

It's a good point you make, Floyd. It's new "for us" but it's 19 years old. How many 19 year old long haul tractor-trailers, taxis, UPS/FedEx delivery trucks, even private cars do we see that appear to me mechanically sound and well-taken care of???

eagle19952 · May 14, 2018, 07:45:02 AM

Quote from: windtrader on May 13, 2018, 10:45:17 PM
answer: no. That thing has been for sale for a year, broken down in Fresno.

Did you read the ad ?
Says it runs.

Jeremy · May 14, 2018, 07:53:11 AM

When I was buying my bus I asked the operator I bought it from why used buses in the UK were so cheap. His explanation was that the monthly finance cost was the same regardless of whether an operator bought a new bus or an older one, with the only thing that varied being the number of months you paid the finance for - and since most operators would generally be changing the vehicle again before the end of it's finance contract anyway then in reality most operators will be paying vehicle finance in perpetuity and it just becomes a fixed overhead of doing business. So you may as well enjoy yourself and buy new or almost-new buses every time, which leads to a flooded used bus market and low prices

Jeremy

Oonrahnjay · May 14, 2018, 08:11:42 AM

Quote from: eagle19952 on May 14, 2018, 07:45:02 AMDid you read the ad ? Says it runs.

I've seen eBay ads for nice, dry home sites west of Miami. They show this one at a fuel stop in the photos, so ... maybe, but I'd check.

eagle19952 · May 14, 2018, 09:33:53 AM

Quote from: Oonrahnjay on May 14, 2018, 08:11:42 AM
I've seen eBay ads for nice, dry home sites west of Miami. They show this one at a fuel stop in the photos, so ... maybe, but I'd check.

well of course one would check.
But dismissing the ad as false makes no sense to me.

chessie4905 · May 14, 2018, 11:21:13 AM

I'd check it out if looking for a shell. Good road test and thorough inspection should be considered mandatory though. There are many great deals out there, especially if some one loses interest not because of body or mechanical issues.

luvrbus · May 14, 2018, 11:31:39 AM

I think that EL belongs to Kit if he doesn't sell it he going on with the conversion lol has Aluminum wheels to I bet it has the right studs too

.Northwest Bus in Vegas has some seated 1999 EL's with 800,000 miles he is asking almost $70,000 and won't budge on the price