Axle oil
 

Axle oil

Started by birdarchitect26, February 04, 2018, 08:49:24 AM

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birdarchitect26

I wanted to grease, clean, and inspect brakes on the bus. Putting the tire back on I noticed this center cap and around the painted over glass reads oil level. So I scraped it off and pulled the cap. The level looks to be close to the bottom, aka full. I wanted to share with others my findings of the things we don't know exist, or at least I didn't. I don't know how typical this is on skoolies but I'm sure MCI made it standard on front wheels.

My question is: what oil goes here? 90w diff? IDK
1973 MC7 Challeger
8V92Ta MCI conversion

buswarrior

Excellent discovery!

Yes, oil for gears and bearings goes in there.

The religious debate rages whether oil, grease, synthetic, semi-synthetic or plain dino sourced lube.

Happy coaching!
Buswarrior
Frozen North, Greater Toronto Area
new project: 1995 MCI 102D3, Cat 3176b, Eaton Autoshift

bobofthenorth

My personal preference is Lucas hub oil because it is least likely to leak out past the seal and get itself smeared all over your brake drums.  As Ewen has already pointed out there are other options.
R.J.(Bob) Evans
Used to be 1981 Prevost 8-92, 10 spd
Currently busless (and not looking)

The last thing I would ever want to do is hurt you.
Its the last thing but its still on the list.

Dave5Cs

"Perfect Frequency"1979 MCI MC5Cs 6V-71,644MT Allison.
2001 Jeep Cherokee Sport 60th Anniversary edition.
1998 Jeep TJ ,(Gone)
Somewhere in the USA fulltiming.

Utahclaimjumper

Utclmjmpr  (rufcmpn)
EX 4106 (presently SOB)
Cedar City, Ut.
72 VW Baja towed

birdarchitect26

Lucas then, thanks for the majority opinion!

I read that the manual states, or MCI suggests 100k hub oil changes. The oil in the hub looked black for sure. I'm going to pick up some Lucas and a syringe and keep that on my back burner list.  ;D

Thanks again,
Jay
1973 MC7 Challeger
8V92Ta MCI conversion

lostagain

The more often the better. Just remove the whole steel cover and let drain for a while. If you want to be neat, there are special catch pans you can buy that fit below the hub. Or let her rip and clean up after. It takes quite a while to refill, because the Lucas Hub oil is quite thick and tacky, and takes some time to spread into the hub through the bearings.

JC
JC
Blackie AB
1977 MC5C, 6V92/HT740 (sold)
2007 Country Coach Magna, Cummins ISX (sold)

bobofthenorth

Quote from: lostagain on February 05, 2018, 08:39:46 AM...... It takes quite a while to refill, because the Lucas Hub oil is quite thick and tacky, and takes some time to spread into the hub through the bearings.
JC

Pay close attention to JC's advice and remember to check them again after or during your first run because the Lucas oil will continue to work through the bearings as it warms up in use.
R.J.(Bob) Evans
Used to be 1981 Prevost 8-92, 10 spd
Currently busless (and not looking)

The last thing I would ever want to do is hurt you.
Its the last thing but its still on the list.

Utahclaimjumper

 Your Stemco hub cap should have a drain plug toward the outside end if you don't want to remove the whole cap ( Removing it will require a new gasket)>>>Dan
Utclmjmpr  (rufcmpn)
EX 4106 (presently SOB)
Cedar City, Ut.
72 VW Baja towed

Scott & Heather

Most of us that drive these coaches know that these exist...but glad you found out before your hubs went dry.


And I for one have been slowly having mine converted to grease because I hate the oil filled hubs. I just have the two steers to finish and I'm done with oiled hubs for good.


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Scott & Heather
1984 MCI 9 6V92-turbo with 9 inch roof raise (SOLD)
1992 MCI 102C3 8v92-turbo with 8 inch roof raise CURRENT HOME
Click link for 900 photos of our 1st bus conversion:
https://goo.gl/photos/GVtNRniG2RBXPuXW9

eagle19952

Quote from: Scott & Heather on February 05, 2018, 03:34:36 PM
Most of us that drive these coaches know that these exist...but glad you found out before your hubs went dry.


And I for one have been slowly having mine converted to grease because I hate the oil filled hubs. I just have the two steers to finish and I'm done with oiled hubs for good.


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how are you keeping the diff oil from the hubs...
Donald PH
1978 Model 05 Eagle w/Torsilastic Suspension,8V71 N, DD, Allison on 24.5's 12kw Kubota.

Scott & Heather

My drive axle is still oil because of the diff. But my tags are grease now and the steers will be done soon.


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Scott & Heather
1984 MCI 9 6V92-turbo with 9 inch roof raise (SOLD)
1992 MCI 102C3 8v92-turbo with 8 inch roof raise CURRENT HOME
Click link for 900 photos of our 1st bus conversion:
https://goo.gl/photos/GVtNRniG2RBXPuXW9

eagle19952

Quote from: Scott & Heather on February 05, 2018, 07:21:57 PM
My drive axle is still oil because of the diff. But my tags are grease now and the steers will be done soon.


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clarity,
got it :)
Donald PH
1978 Model 05 Eagle w/Torsilastic Suspension,8V71 N, DD, Allison on 24.5's 12kw Kubota.

jcdillin

I just did this project on my MC12, the windows on mine were very brittle with age.

The replacement for my hubs were https://www.ryderfleetproducts.com/stemco-359-5999/hub-cap-window-kit-p-w86-3595999

I pulled off the hub caps and cleaned it out and then replaced with lucas hub oil.

Before



After

Jeremiah
Jacksonville, FL

1995 MCI MC12
6V-92T HT740

birdarchitect26

jcdillin, thanks for the link and suggestion. As you can see one side is the stemco brand with the flat window and the other is, what I presume, must be original or at least older aftermarket hub cap.

Because you got me looking at options, I plan to just buy two new hub caps with the flat windows and the drain bolt for ease of changing for next time!

I will have to measure the bolt pattern to confirm the hub cap is as follows:

https://www.ryderfleetproducts.com/stemco-348-4009/cap-hub-p-w86-3484009

With a quick search I found a few online, including Amazon. I like Amazon given the fast shipping, free shipping, and excellent no questions return policy!

http://www.wolfetruckparts.com/CAP-HUB-W86-3484009-WTP-41-p/3484009-wtp-41.htm

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B002D49WBY/ref=sspa_dk_detail_1?psc=1&pd_rd_i=B002D49WBY&pd_rd_wg=r6iFS&pd_rd_r=F9R038TGN3NV2ZM5CKCF&pd_rd_w=mNUmz

I'll update with a post install picture for those interested.

Jay
1973 MC7 Challeger
8V92Ta MCI conversion