How to get under Bus without air?

[Jim Eh.]

I found rust generally starts or occurs at a weld point. Something about heating the base metals from room temperature up to 6000° C - 8000°C then back to room temperature kinda does funny things to steel.

[chessie4905]

Steel melts about 1370°c.

[Branderson]

Yea how does it drive with the snow like that?  I think I remember you asking about chains before so I don't know if you use them.  To be honest, I would be a nervous wreck if I was driving with snow on the ground. 

Part of me thinks the weight of the bus would really help with traction but I just don't have the wheel time and experience with it.

[neoneddy]

Re:driving on snow, me too... 30,000 lbs even at 30mph on ice gives me white knuckles... and I'm that guy doing the speed limit in 4WD with 4 inches of snow on the road... ok maybe not the speed limit, but definitely passing most traffic cus reasons.

[Oonrahnjay]

... I would be a nervous wreck if I was driving with snow on the ground. 

       Snow is what you look at through double-paned glass window while you sit by a fire with a small Scotch in your hand.  (In our defense in NC, we rarely get falling frozen precip but when we do, it's usually more ice than snow.  No snow plow or clearing equipment, no accommodation on the road layout, people with little experience and unsuitable tires.  Yeah, just stay home -- or parked). 

[buswarrior]

Nothing beats a motor coach for all 'round stability in the snow.

My first choice in a snow storm.

A 4x4 doesn't change lanes in rutted snow at highway speed very well...

Happy coaching!
Buswarrior

[bevans6]

When I was a kid I drove school buses in Ottawa in the winter.  Literally never thought twice about driving in snow, it was what you did at least 60% of the time.  A little later I commuted regularly between Toronto and Ottawa.  Many many times got caught in lake effect snow along the 401 and if you found a bus you thanked your lucky stars.  Those guys could break a trail for you and you could follow them - until they pulled away because they were flat out faster than you could drive, even in their tracks!

Brian

[PP]

When I was a kid I drove school buses in Ottawa in the winter.  Literally never thought twice about driving in snow, it was what you did at least 60% of the time.  A little later I commuted regularly between Toronto and Ottawa.  Many many times got caught in lake effect snow along the 401 and if you found a bus you thanked your lucky stars.  Those guys could break a trail for you and you could follow them - until they pulled away because they were flat out faster than you could drive, even in their tracks!

Brian

When I was a kid growing up in Minnesota we pushed school buses by hand when they got stuck. Wish I had pics 

[PP]

       Snow is what you look at through double-paned glass window while you sit by a fire with a small Scotch in your hand.  (In our defense in NC, we rarely get falling frozen precip but when we do, it's usually more ice than snow.  No snow plow or clearing equipment, no accommodation on the road layout, people with little experience and unsuitable tires.  Yeah, just stay home -- or parked). 

LARGE Scotch, Bruce...

[Oonrahnjay]

When I was a kid growing up in Minnesota we pushed school buses by hand when they got stuck. Wish I had pics    

       With no shoes on, uphill in both directions.   I've heard all about it from my lovely new wife, the Minnesota-Norwegian Viking queen!

LARGE Scotch, Bruce...  

       Works for me -- I was actually thinking of a small one, replenished often through the day.  When it snows, it's not just for breakfast anymore!!

[Scott & Heather]

Haha. I'm a Michigander, snow doesn't bother me. I actually tried and successfully did a slow speed drift in the snow yesterday on the way to the shop. Was fun...drove on glare ice at one point and coach did perfectly fine. My wife was following in the 4x4 and was having more issues than I was in the 4" of snow on the roads.


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[sledhead]

we drive from the great white north to florida every year after christmas and on most trips we hit snow . one year we hit a bad storm from pittsburgh and kept driving until we got through the tunnel in north carolina . on the way we went through 12 " of snow on the road and I was braking trail . zero tracks on the road and I wanted to get to the other side of the hills before they closed the road . driving on that much snow I could not tell much difference other then you always had in the back of your mind that you might have to hit the brakes but never had to . there was about 1.5 hours that I never saw a car or truck on the road in front of me . now I had a following of cars and trucks behind me that I could not see the end and no one ever tried to pass . lets just say they were happy trying to keep up with me

so yes a couch is amazing on snow

dave

[eagle19952]

Nothing beats a motor coach for all 'round stability in the snow.

My first choice in a snow storm.

A 4x4 doesn't change lanes in rutted snow at highway speed very well...

Happy coaching!
Buswarrior

What he said. Drove mine from Anchorage to Minneapolis VIA Winnipeg in late Oct/early Nov. no chains. I even shut the Detroit down nights in NWT, YT, Alberta and Manitoba.

[Oonrahnjay]

...  Drove mine from Anchorage to Minneapolis VIA Winnipeg in late Oct/early Nov. ...

      Wow, it must have been cold -- that's already the dead of winter by about three months!   

[solardude]

There sure are a lot of folks from Minnesota or very near on this board.. Who knew Minnesotans loved busses so much