NEW EAGLE BUS - WHAT DO YOU THINK? NOW LOCKED!

[Songman]

Doug, my comment was really not about any question you posed. It was more about the fact that in the two years I have been here just about any time an Eagle bus is mentioned you come into the thread and down it. And you make no bones about how you feel about them trying to build new ones. You have every right to your opinion. There is no doubt of that. As a casual observer it just gets a little old after the 1000th time when there are real points people are trying to make. Bottom line is, Eagle didn't last as long as it did by being the rusted out piece of crap that you tell everyone they are. Even MCI has had MANY problems over the years.

I admit that the Silver Eagle website leaves a lot to be desired. I would be glad to offer my services to them in that area whenever they are ready for it. Saying the website hasn't been updated in 6 months is totally inaccurate. It was actually updated 2 months ago and I found lots of new stuff I enjoyed seeing recently. And you know, sometimes a website just don't need updating in 6 months anyway.

And I also agree that I would love to see engine and interior pictures of the bus. On the other hand, I have never seen pictures of the inside of the space station either but I know it exists. We've already admitted they are not the best on the web. That doesn't mean they aren't doing anything. Have you ever seen the advertisements for my business? No? That's because I don't advertise. But I am still in business and get all the work I want. As far as Eagle goes, let me make another comparison. I used to travel with Merle Haggard. Merle was on a label that put out two albums for him with a negligible amount of promotion. It really sucked. So why would they do it? Because they knew that Merle had such a name that a certain amount of people would buy his stuff regardless. Eagle has a name like that. I'm sure as they get closer to having units to sell, we will see their advertising. Again, I will gladly offer my services if needed. But at that time, you will raise the bar again.

What do you do for a living, Doug? I don't know you well enough to know. But you must be very good at it since you can claim that the "owners are full of crap' because they are not on their published time frame. Never had anything take longer than planned, or things go wrong that pushed a schedule back? You are a miracle man because I'm sure everyone else here has. And frankly, I am glad they are taking their time to do it right instead of throwing something out there quick that might have issues, just so you won't think they are full of crap. Personally, I don't see how those two things relate. Off schedule - full of crap.

Dolly is the only person in country that you know that owns her bus? I will also assume that you don't really know if the country industry has come out of the backwoods to buy Eagles yet either. I figured you were going to come back with something like 'all the rap groups lease'. I don't know how many acts you have come into contact with in the last few years but I already said that I know most of them for the last 40. Just off the top of my head Merle, Charlie Daniels, George Jones, Brooks and Dunn, Marty Stewart, Reba, Vern Gosdin, Travis Tritt... and these are just the ones that I have personally traveled with. Most country acts, when they get established, buy their own buses.

Yeah, Eagle can rust. But luckily they are easy to fix if they do. But not all Eagles rust. I just bought an Eagle that was a NJ transit and it has no rust. New Jersey! The rust belt! True, Eagle was a poorly run company. After only 20-some years and 8000 buses, they closed shop. But that has nothing to do with these guys. These guys are brand new. If not for Greyhound and being bought out over and over, MCI wouldn't be much different. As a matter of fact, aren't they in bankruptcy now. Maybe we can start posting in every MCI thread about what a bunch of losers they are?

Yes, two years. You were wrong. Do you KNOW they are not making buses? Or are you just saying that you aren't seeing any ads and pictures on their website? I kinda figure that like I do the President. I figure he sees stuff that I don't see so knows more about what is going on than I do. But then, he needs to because he is the one making the decisions.

I just hope that in the end, you can give them credit for a nice product. I know I wouldn't want to take one what they have done. I think they deserve a little credit and support. Beyond that... We all know how you feel. You've told us and told us and told us. You don't have to keep repeating it in every Eagle thread...

Enjoy your trip. And we will enjoy the Eagle peace.

Have fun in Branson, Clifford. Wish I could be there.

[Songman]

Didn't upset me, Dave. I think you are probably on the right track. My point is that there are many possible reasons other than 'the owners are full of crap' and it is not really fair to be spouting that on the internet. No more than it is to say that Eagles suck. They didn't become the icon they did by sucking. Like I said, and you said too, MCI is in trouble but I am not going to start bashing them in MCI threads. Not to mention the fact that Doug, nor most of us, really know whether or not Eagle is building anything. Clifford probably knows more than any of us.

And I apologize for the rant. I'm done now.

[Dreamscape]

tekebird,

When I read your posts regarding Eagles I just smile and move on. 

I'm just grateful that Clifford keeps me informed as to what is going on with Silver Eagle Manufacturing.

And you wonder why no one shares information whith you regarding Eagles? Think about it for a while.

Paul

[Busted Knuckle]

Oh boy I really hate to step in here, because I don't have any boots on and it's quite messy. But I must point out the fact that Kassbohrer was the original designer and manufacturer of the EAGLE! Now they did in fact sell out to whom ever, who sold to whom ever and so on! But the FACT remains the same Kassbohrer was the originator! And Kassbohrer is in fact still building a refined version of the original in the form of SETRA! So just because some one mismanaged the Eagle after Setra sold out, doesn't mean the whole concept or vehicle is bad! SETRA is still around and shipping buses daily to the US from Germany! FWIW   BK 

OK I'm off my soap box now!
By the way how is that ugly EAGLE coming along? LOL!

[luvrbus]

Teke, the 2 years you wagered on is about up Feb will be 2 years since your post.Anybody can stop into SilverEagle and see for themself what is going on catch Craig or his brother and you may get a free lunch.I stop in every time I am down there the last time I was there he was building a 37ft model for a Saudi, this is a hard working family doing it their way knowing they are not going to get rich and produce 150 buses a year. good luck    ps Dale I am still on jury duty in AZ no Branson for me

[compedgemarine]

I suppose that based on Teke's opinion then Chevrolet is full of crap and closing shop, after all the camaro is two years past due on its release date. Maybe Teke was traumatized at an early age by an Eagle, maybe he is just an unhappy person in general. In the short time I have been on this board I have noticed the trend that while quite knowledgable in many areas his opinion is 'everything we have had is better than anything you have and no one is right but me'. Even when proven wrong he wont admit to it. Personally I have an Eagle. Why? because I wanted one. I did not want an MCI or Prevost but will freely admit that they build a nice product. Every coach has issues, some big, some small but they are all flawed in some way. So What. that is what makes it nice that we can all chose which flaws we want to live with. As for Craig and Eagle, I for one applaud them for have the guts to take on the challange and while we can all be critics unless we want to put our time and money out on the line then we should limit our critique of there actions. No one has to like that they are working to revive Eagle but to make it our lifes mission to insult there every move makes a big statement of ones character.
just my $.02, but what do I know? I am just a dumb redneck Eagle owner.
steve

[Songman]

To quote the great Charlie Daniels.. a fine American and personal friend, I might add...
"What this world needs is a few more rednecks..."

I never realized you were from Dahlonega, Steve. I'm a misplaced Dalton boy myself. But one of these days the highways will lead me back to my North GA home to stay.

[compedgemarine]

Hey Songman,
Originally I am from Jollyville, Texas. then went to florida, georgia, north carolina, back to florida and now back to georgia up here in the mountains. I love it up here as it reminds me of where I grew up (outside Austin) and the folks up here are great. If you make it back this way let me know.
steve

[NJT 5573]

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Nick-

[makemineatwostroke]

If any of you ever meet these people you would be impressed with their efforts,Craig sent Featherlite a drawing for the frame work on my 15 when I was having my slides installed and saved me over 3 grand in engineering fees and would not let me pay the FedEx charges if the guy build buses or not he is one super dude in my opinion if I need a .15 cent item it comes from him   

have a great evening

[Songman]

I was on the phone with them this afternoon trying to find out information about the 20. Very helpful and didn't mind spending time on the phone to help me sort out the problem even though I didn't buy anything from them.

Steve, you sound like me. I started in GA, then to CO, then back to GA, to FL, back to GA, to MO, to AR, back to GA, to TN, to TX, back to TN, then to CA. We still visit the family in Dalton as often as we can. And I take my CA girls through the mountains in North GA and then up into the Smokies every time we come home.

[muddog16]

I've been away from my bus for awhile now, it was one of those periods where you just have to stop and do something different!  I'm surprised I didn't comment here before, I know that Eagle makes a fine bus, I know the original designs for Eagle and Prevost were by the same people!  Teke, who knows why you say the things you do, I know they aren't warrented!  A bus, is a bus, is a bus!  If you're a real busnut then you pretty well like them all! 

To start and build a business in today's economy has to be difficult and envolves lots of hard work and dedication!  Rome wasn't built in a day, its to easy to sit here day in and out tearing other peoples accomplishments apart!  When any Bus Company goes out of business it is a loss for all of us, so when you cheer a closing or mistake, you are hurting yourself! 

That said, I'm back and working my apologies for loafing, I just needed a breath of fresh air!

[Songman]

Wow Pat! I haven't looked at your site in a while. You've made a lot of progress since last time I looked. Looking good! And you are using a Hurricane too. I'll be watching that with interest and see if I can learn something from you for when the time comes to mount mine.

[tekebird]

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Thanks
Nick-

[Dreamscape]

 

I think I will go have a cup of coffee!

I'm back, man that was sure good!

Dale, Hurry up and get that Eagle website forum going.....Please.....

From a Proud Eagle Owner!

PS

Almost forgot,

Welcome back Doug.