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Broken down in Austin. Need blower belt.

Started by brianzero, October 15, 2017, 10:58:37 AM

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belfert

Please note that I don't have an MC-9.  I found some old posts on the forum that the blower belt is a C120.  I suppose it could be different depending on if it came with a 6V92 or an 8V71.

Is it really okay to use a pry bar to put on a belt?  My fan belts had a lot of cracks after ten years so I replaced.  The belts on it were Gates B97 so I put on my spare set of belts that were also Gates B97.  The old belts popped right off, but I spent hours putting the new belts on.  I actually ordered Gates B98 belts as new spares because the tensioner has lots of adjustment left.

I suspect the truth is you're not going to find a belt that big in stock at an auto parts store.  They can probably get it from the warehouse on Monday.
Brian Elfert - 1995 Dina Viaggio 1000 Series 60/B500 - 75% done but usable - Minneapolis, MN

gumpy

Quote from: belfert on October 15, 2017, 04:04:00 PM
Is it really okay to use a pry bar to put on a belt?  


Not using the pry bar on the belt itself. Using it to pull the blower drive cradle downward to get the belt to slip over the pulley.

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I suspect the truth is you're not going to find a belt that big in stock at an auto parts store.  They can probably get it from the warehouse on Monday.

NAPA in Buffalo, MN had one in stock when I replaced mine. So, it think it depends on where you are, and what else it's used on.
Craig Shepard
Located in Minnesquito

http://bus.gumpydog.com - "Some Assembly Required"

HB of CJ

This might not be appropriate right now but in the future would researching and obtaining the maximum high quality and strength proper blower belt be a good idea?

My old Crown Supercoach ran two, (2) big fat thick belts from the front crank pulley to that big fan sucking air through the side mounted huge radiator.  Very spendy.

We found out that there are belts and there are belts.  Some are for specific industrial applications.  Some for HD dynamic installations like automotive use.  All expensive.

The front pulleys on the crank and fan were specific also.

gumpy

FYI, I just measured my old one. It's 124" inches long.
Craig Shepard
Located in Minnesquito

http://bus.gumpydog.com - "Some Assembly Required"

belfert

Quote from: gumpy on October 15, 2017, 04:08:13 PM
Not using the pry bar on the belt itself. Using it to pull the blower drive cradle downward to get the belt to slip over the pulley.

Ah.  I don't have that option on my bus.  I just bought a belt an inch longer for the next time.
Brian Elfert - 1995 Dina Viaggio 1000 Series 60/B500 - 75% done but usable - Minneapolis, MN

Dave5Cs

Quote from: gumpy on October 15, 2017, 04:08:13 PM
Not using the pry bar on the belt itself. Using it to pull the blower drive cradle downward to get the belt to slip over the pulley.



Yep not on the belt itself.
"Perfect Frequency"1979 MCI MC5Cs 6V-71,644MT Allison.
2001 Jeep Cherokee Sport 60th Anniversary edition.
1998 Jeep TJ ,(Gone)
Somewhere in the USA fulltiming.

buswarrior

Older MCI owners best be carrying a set of spare belts.

The ready availability of these is gone.

Depending on your region, there are precious few commercially running coaches with squirrel cage fans, and the 4 belt matched set alternator belts.

good used spares, you buy fresh ones for the coach, and set aside the take-offs as your spares. Then you know they fit, and you know their history.

Happy coaching!
Buswarrior
Frozen North, Greater Toronto Area
new project: 1995 MCI 102D3, Cat 3176b, Eaton Autoshift

bevans6

FWIW, if I have air pressure up in my MCI, if I turn the belt tensioner control knob to "off", the air cylinder reverses and the belt goes fully slack, all the way, under air pressure on the cylinder.  If there is no air pressure, a heavy spring inside the cylinder keeps adequate tension on the belt.  When I have air pressure and the switch is "on", the belt is properly tensioned.  Now I need to make a note to buy a spare belt, even though the one on it is new.  We went around 6 years on the board with nary a discussion of belts, or a plea for a source and size, now - once a week!  What's up with that?

Brian
1980 MCI MC-5C, 8V-71T from a M-110 self propelled howitzer
Allison MT-647
Tatamagouche, Nova Scotia

sledhead

when I ordered a new belt for my mci it was 3 weeks before I got it and it came from mci
never needed it but glad I had it

dave
dave , karen
1990 mci 102c  6v92 ta ht740  kit,living room slide .... sold
2000 featherlite vogue vantare 550 hp 3406e  cat
1875 lbs torque  home base huntsville ontario canada

brianzero

Update; belt installed, but I discovered a broken belt tensioner linkage. Im pointing to the shear or crack.

Opinions needed. I believe I can weld that joint directly below my finger. It will hold everything in the vertical position, and hold tension on the belt. I cleaned the metal, and Im ready to weld this.


ol713

   Hi;
     What happened to your old belt?  Did it break, or did it just
     stretched out and come off the pulley?  If it just came off the
     pulley, you can put it back and adjust the tensioner a little more.
     If it broke just measure the outside length for a replacement belt.
                                         Good luck,   Merle.

gumpy

i'm not convinced that's broken. It's too straight and uniform.

I just looked at mine, and that ring above your "crack" has two flats on it. The threaded rod is attached to the upper knuckle and screws down into the bottom knuckle and I'm thinking that's a spacer for the jamb nut. However, I'm not sure as I don't have a big gap like you're showing. Actually, I think that gap on yours is just a shadow line where the spacer overhangs the knuckle sleeve.  

I think you should take the two knuckles off and apart and make sure it's not supposed to be like that before you go welding it together.

Craig Shepard
Located in Minnesquito

http://bus.gumpydog.com - "Some Assembly Required"

Scott & Heather

I'm with craig. I can't see anything broken there...I wish I were there I could help you. I've replaced several belts on my coaches and I also have turnbuckles on mine.


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Scott & Heather
1984 MCI 9 6V92-turbo with 9 inch roof raise (SOLD)
1992 MCI 102C3 8v92-turbo with 8 inch roof raise CURRENT HOME
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brianzero

Craig, mine is straight because I repositioned with a hammer and chisel. My wife held a prybar and forced the carriage upward. This was absolutely broken in two pieces, but now welded. It has to last 1700 miles.

gumpy

Hmm. OK. The manual shows 3 pieces in the diagram. Two are labeled; the Uniball End - Female and Uniball End - Male, and shows a nut between the two. Maybe that piece is the threaded part of the female end. Interesting that it would break right there.

Well, anyway, glad you got it figured out and got a new belt on.
Craig Shepard
Located in Minnesquito

http://bus.gumpydog.com - "Some Assembly Required"