Concrete garage floor

[Zephod]

Just a thought but... cut the concrete and lay a real drain line to the center. Then fill in where you laid the drain line.


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[kyle4501]

Just a thought but... cut the concrete and lay a real drain line to the center. Then fill in where you laid the drain line.


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Short of a total tear out & re-pour, that is my only option, but it won't be a drain - more like a spillway. . . .

Pisses me off that the dumbass didn't slope it to the perimeter drain I had already installed.

Pisses me off worse that I didn't see thru his con - I really hope others can avoid making the same mistake I did.

Ask to see his insurance, license, bond, recent customers - especially the ones where he had to fix a major mistake.

[windtrader]

Just curious, I take it you were not present during the pour and leveling? Seems like that would be a take away lesson in the future, don't trust the num nuts

[kyle4501]

I was there & I did see that it was low in the middle. I pointed it out to them & they said it just looked that way, it would finish out perfect.


There is only so so much you can do after the fact . . . . Basically, I was conned. I wanted to help a small business. No good deed goes unpunished.

That is why I posted - It doesn't matter how good they talk - get YOUR specifications in writing & check references.

If they are a real & competent company, they shouldn't need a deposit either.

[luvrbus]

Most small concrete contractors do need a deposit or a joint check to pay the reddi mix co in advance,reddi mix plants don't give credit easy they want their money, nothing wrong with it as long as you watch and be sure he paid the plant,I choose the joint check myself  
Here in AZ if the guy has a credit account the concrete has a pre- lien when delivered other states have the same law.
I know one time a contractor poured a 225,000 sf pad for me that was pre-lien I flipped out because I never heard of that before all I could think of was what the hell I have to pay for 3800 cy of concrete lol I was sure glad that sub contractor paid his bills.
Sorry about the out come Kyle maybe you can do a floor grate they are not pretty but it works a 2,3 or 4 inch wide wouldn't look to bad    

[Dave5Cs]

Yep California Pre-liens all contracted work and when the bill is paid the PL is released in writing. But you have to file it 30 days before the work starts or it holds no water in court. Then after the job is paid you file a lien release to get the check. If the paying party contests the job after you release the lien and decides not to pay until you go to court you can be stuck holding the bag until a judge decides the outcome. Not often but it has happened.

[sledhead]

I built a commercial building 10,000 sq . feet  in 2000 and my floor guy had the floor TURN to fast ( dry ) and it ended up like a floor of rolling hills . maybe 1/2 " up and down all over the floor other then near the floor drain so if water was with in 10 feet from it it would drain after that you have to use a push broom to get the water to go to the drain . as it was my buddy that built the building and did the floor no big deal . the only thing we have done is paint the floor and it has been no real problem over the years and there has been lots of water on it over the years

not the end of the world

the next floor he did for me I made the drains lower so the water HAD to go to them

dave

[kyle4501]

About the deposit, If they can't afford to prepay the concrete for a small job, how can they afford to make it right when they screw up?

I'm just disappointed that the lengthy discussions didn't mean anything & his assurances that he would make it good mean nothing after the fact.

I spent the day yesterday cutting in a drain. I didn't want to cut all the way thru the slab, so I cut a trough 3" deep at the edge & gave it a slight slope up to the puddle - will put a 1-1/4 pvc pipe to drain the puddle. I'll fill it in so I get the smooth floor I wanted & have only a 4" diameter drain grate in the middle of the lowest spot. If that fails, I still have other options.

[bevans6]

That actually sounds like a good option, I prefer a center drain if possible.  My big building is built on a floating slab, in the spring the back right corner heaves up 2" (you can see under the frame wall) and the floor is 2" deep with run-off.  The ground slopes away just fine - the snow freezes and the water just runs over it to the wall, down the wall and into the building.  I have no clue how to fix it, the right way to do it would have been to pour a 2 foot high stub wall and build the frame walls on that.

[luvrbus]

About the deposit, If they can't afford to prepay the concrete for a small job, how can they afford to make it right when they screw up?

Simple they don't plan on making it right 2 sure things about concrete it gets hard and cracks

[kyle4501]

Simple they don't plan on making it right

Exactly.


The companies that didn't require a deposit were on the high side which put them beyond my reach - or so I thought at the time.

[Dave5Cs]

Brian can you put in a french drain. Trench filled with grave and a perferated drain pipe to take the water somewhere else other than your shop.

[kyle4501]

Got the spillway installed. I tested it last night. It isn't a fast drain, but 1-1/4" pipe running 12 feet at a total drop of 1/4", I didn't expect it to. . . .

The water moves slow enough that the dirt doesn't make it in the drain, which I'm good with as it is less likely to clog the drain if it isn't in there. 
I can now use a hose to push the dirt out the door & the water left behind finds its way to the drain. 24 hours later, the floor is dry.
Not what I was expecting, but I'll try it out for a while to see if any other issues show up.

[MB LeMirage]

I am poring the floor for the bus barn next week, hopefully it turns out better than yours has (no I am not trying to rub salt). If it goes crap though, I can only blame myself as I am the one doing it .
Ryan

[kyle4501]

Ryan,
I'm sure you know this, but screed boards are a huge help!

I hope you have great results with no unpleasant surprises