Hello, an introduction

[Iceni John]

Lowblock, if you're still interested in a nicely converted Prevost, there's one in the RV yard where I store my bus, and it's for sale.   It's a Royale conversion by Monaco, it has a 8V92, and the owner told me yesterday that he put $10K into it last year at Prevost but has hardly driven it at all.   I think he said the interior is all solid maple, and it does look nice.   He's had it for ten years, but it's had a For Sale sign on it for at least a year  -  he told me yesterday that one of his clients has expressed some interest in it, but he doesn't seem to be very motivated to sell it!   I have no idea what he's asking, but he knows it's a very soft market now.   I also mentioned that BCM could be a possible source of interest in it.

PM me if you want me to let him know you may be interested.

John

[sixtyseven]

will the tag axle wheel always be inset from the drive axle?

Hi Dave, welcome to the board.   All Prevosts come from the factory with the tag wheels inset, but it is possible to fix that.    I had spacers made for mine so it would look better.   Since I spaced them out instead of "flipping" my wheels like the bus-likes, it actually reduces stress on the bearings instead of increasing it.   They look way better and the hubs are actually cooler to the touch now.    I've seen some pretty nice looking Prevosts for sale recently.   Good luck on your hunt.   

[muldoonman]

Hi Dave, welcome to the board.   All Prevosts come from the factory with the tag wheels inset, but it is possible to fix that.    I had spacers made for mine so it would look better.   Since I spaced them out instead of "flipping" my wheels like the bus-likes, it actually reduces stress on the bearings instead of increasing it.   They look way better and the hubs are actually cooler to the touch now.    I've seen some pretty nice looking Prevosts for sale recently.   Good luck on your hunt.   

How could spacing them out reduce stress? Seems like it would increase as you are getting further away from the bearing center. Inquiring minds would like to know.

[sixtyseven]

How could spacing them out reduce stress? Seems like it would increase as you are getting further away from the bearing center. Inquiring minds would like to know.

First, when they designed the steer axle they made it so the king pin center was as close to the tire center (at the road surface) as possible, therefor the bearings had to be outboard of the centerline.   Then,  when they made the tag axle, to save money on production costs, they used the same hub as the front, once again with the bearings outboard of the centerline of the tire.    With the spacers in place the bearing are closer to centerline of the tire.

[bigred]

Joe; What happens if we just reverse the tag wheels ,you know ,like the outside duals !! That seems to be what BB done!!

[luvrbus]

I thought the tag axle and the front steer axle were in alignment on a MCI and Prevost for a reason not for looks 

[bigred]

I thought the tag axle and the front steer axle were in alignment on a MCI and Prevost for a reason not for looks 

That has been my under standing also Cliff!! Altho it would make a Prevost or an MCI look so much better,I would be very cautious when it came to second guessing the manufacturers  .On the other hand,B B and other made it work for them .Go figure!!!But I definitely do not like that "Citroin" look 

[luvrbus]

Even BB got away from turning the wheel dish out later on 

[sixtyseven]

Joe; What happens if we just reverse the tag wheels ,you know ,like the outside duals !! That seems to be what BB done!!

If you were to just turn the wheel around for the beav look, because of the wheel offset, it would stick out about 10" past the side of your coach, plus put a huge load on the bearings.  They had to make a special axle that was about 20" narrower for that and special hubs with outboard bearings.

[sixtyseven]

Even BB got away from turning the wheel dish out later on 

I think that was because they want them to look more like a MCI or Prevost, and less like a bus-like

[lostagain]

Having been around buses for 40 + years, the tag axle wheels being set in doesn't look odd to me, just normal.

JC

[luvrbus]

I think that was because they want them to look more like a MCI or Prevost, and less like a bus-like

Blue Bird used the Ridewell tag either the follow along steering or straight steering same as a Vogue,Foretravel and others in RV manufacturing used.
They just purchased the axle and bolted it to the frame and were designed to have the dish out.That changed when they started selling the commuter buses and 45 ft RV's.
On my DL3 with the follow along tag steering if you tried to space the wheel out it would screw up the whole bus for turning I would believe.The DL3 is not as far inset as the older MCI's either mine is hardly noticeable        

[Scott & Heather]

Hi Dave! Enjoy the madness. really great to have someone with your background on here. Don't be offended when the "sticks and staples" rvs are knocked about...just bus trash talk lol I know I'll be pestering you with questions at some point on my inverter install and solar someday too, until then, I'll leave you alone so you can get settled in here and get some conversion work done on that prevost


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[sixtyseven]

On my DL3 with the follow along tag steering if you tried to space the wheel out it would screw up the whole bus for turning I would believe.        

Yes that's right, you absolutely would not want to space out wheels on a steerable tag.   That would screw up the steering geometry.

[lvmci]

I dont understand the need for the tag axle look to be different. The front of some S&S wheels look knock kneed, some being over a foot inward from the body panels, not pretty. Brings to mind some 1960s cars. But the dually drive axle is so impressive in size and the purpose of distributing weight of a tag axle is so obvious. I think a MCI Combo looks good too, but two more wheels and tires to deal with, just for looks? I dont know, lvmci...