I'M BETTING ONE OF OUR BUS NUTS WILL WANT THIS

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Yes. The old GMC TOROFLOW was a diesel based on the famous GMC truck V6's that were used in GMC trucks and school bus chassis in the 1960's and 70's. From what I have read, most say that is was no good and question why GM built these when they already had wonderful proven diesel engines in the form of DETROIT DIESEL. Duplication and overlap as we know was quite common at GM back then and still is given that GMC and CHEVROLET are twins. I think they do that just to keep dealers happy.
Even the GMC V6 gasoline versions were product of this being that there were plenty of V8 gasoline engines that GM was already building but I guess they thought it was a good idea for each division to be equal but separate in many areas.
The funniest line about the TOROFLOW I saw is that the legend goes that there is a secret splinter group at GM that designs bad engines and cars and then when it fails, they fire them but there are others waiting in the wings. Think about it, the TOROFLOW, CHEVROLET VEGA, CORVAIR, OLDSMOBILE DIESEL, the whole SATURN division. Funny but it makes sense.

Yep !!It does You know where this whole idea came from was the gas shortage of the seventies if this is the same diesel they were putting in cars  along about then .Basically took a gas engine and fixed it to run on diesel fuel I never heard anyone say any thing good about these things except one local preacher.He had a 79 Olds with that diesel motor and I think he drove that thing for 400 thousand miles.Oh well!! One mans junk is another mans treasure!!! (this day and time I might not  should have said that)

[Lin]

My former bus was a 1967 Superior Super Cruiser on a GM truck chassis.  It had the pusher Toroflow engine. It did not have much power but got at least 10mpg. For all the negative statements about it, it was always dependable.  I believe it was Luke that told me that, once they got the bugs out, it was not a bad engine if used in the right weight vehicle.  At 26000 pounds, my Superior was probably at the very top or maybe over of its optimum service range.

An interesting thing about Superior is that they bought an huge, old military tank factory.  I was told that they actually hot dip galvanized the entire shell.  This certainly protected against rust, but also created some paint issues.

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My former bus was a 1967 Superior Super Cruiser on a GM truck chassis.  It had the pusher Toroflow engine. It did not have much power but got at least 10mpg. For all the negative statements about it, it was always dependable.  I believe it was Luke that told me that, once they got the bugs out, it was not a bad engine if used in the right weight vehicle.  At 26000 pounds, my Superior was probably at the very top or maybe over of its optimum service range.

An interesting thing about Superior is that they bought an huge, old military tank factory.  I was told that they actually hot dip galvanized the entire shell.  This certainly protected against rust, but also created some paint issues.

I have seen them with the paint almost totally gone but have never seen one with rust issues even after sitting outside unused for years!!

[daddysgirl]

Ha.
Well, that voltage regulator never did change much did it? Mine might be buried in the bay with the generator...but it's the same thing
I wonder if you set that one at 27.3 as well...

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Ha.
Well, that voltage regulator never did change much did it? Mine might be buried in the bay with the generator...but it's the same thing
I wonder if you set that one at 27.3 as well...

Looks just like the one on my Prevo also!!!

[Lin]

Posted by: daddysgirl
"Ha.
Well, that voltage regulator never did change much did it? Mine might be buried in the bay with the generator...but it's the same thing Smiley
I wonder if you set that one at 27.3 as well..."

My 1967 Superior was 12v.

[Geoff]

When the Toro Flow failed, GM went back to the 4-71 and 4-71T.  Then they came out with another medium duty loser, the 8.2 fuel pincher.  Oh, and the 53 series was another option.

[Iceni John]

I think I may know where this bus is  -  the Craigslist ad says Otay Mesa CA.   When I've driven to the new Cross Border Express passenger footbridge that connects with Tijuana airport, I've seen a large junk yard off Britannia Road close to the 905 freeway that has some buses and RVs in it.    One day I'll try to get a better look at it.   There was an MCI bus there at one time, maybe an MC9, but I haven't seen it recently.   These are the places where one can sometimes find the proverbial diamond in the rough.

John

I took some folk to Tijuana airport this morning, actually to the CBX bridge (I don't even want to think how long the border wait is these days . . .), so I tried to see if this bus is in the junkyard near there  -  I didn't see it, but there are several other even larger junkyards north of the 905.   I wonder where it is.   Could be worth a gander.

John

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I took some folk to Tijuana airport this morning, actually to the CBX bridge (I don't even want to think how long the border wait is these days . . .), so I tried to see if this bus is in the junkyard near there  -  I didn't see it, but there are several other even larger junkyards north of the 905.   I wonder where it is.   Could be worth a gander.

John

John; Here is the phone number from the Craigslist ad. 619-376-7607