torque converter wrench? Any good?
 

torque converter wrench? Any good?

Started by Danny Holder, December 09, 2016, 12:31:32 PM

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Danny Holder

Does anybody have any experience with the torque converter wrench that is said to get off lugs?
Thanks ???

Nel

Yes got one off Amazon last year think its 60:1 or something along those lines , works great , the only thing is it doesn't seat properly on the lugs in the rear duallies so you need to get a short adaptor between the socket and tool
4104-4519
West Nyack , NY

brmax

I think Dave5c picked up a nice one several years ago. Maybe a search as it wasn't to awful long ago we had some chat about them and some had a good review.

Floyd

Use the (Torque multiplier) in search
1992 MC9
6V92
Allison

Danny Holder

Thanks guys for the information.  I just order one.

Dave5Cs

"Perfect Frequency"1979 MCI MC5Cs 6V-71,644MT Allison.
2001 Jeep Cherokee Sport 60th Anniversary edition.
1998 Jeep TJ ,(Gone)
Somewhere in the USA fulltiming.

DoubleEagle

There are a lot of sources for these geared wrenches, most are made in China, but some have better quality than others. Check for reviews carefully, some US companies specify modifications to the design to make them more dependable.  ;)
Walter
Dayton, Ohio
1975 Silvereagle Model 05, 8V71, 4 speed Spicer
1982 Eagle Model 10, 6V92, 5 speed Spicer
1984 Eagle Model 10, 6V92 w/Jacobs, Allison HT740
1994 Eagle Model 15-45, Series 60 w/Jacobs, HT746

dtcerrato

I love my 3/4" drive Chicago Pneumatic Air Impact Wrench. Works great anywhere much impact of large hardware is needed. I have been known to use it in conjunction with a 4 to 1 multiplier when the hardware gets real big (example - transmission output shaft housing on manuals to replace output seal - 14 to 18 hundred foot pounds).
Dan & Sandy
North Central Florida
PD4104-129 since 1979
Toads: 2009 Jeep GC Limited 4X4 5.7L Hemi
             2008 GMC Envoy SLT 4x4 4.2L IL Vortec

kyle4501

I have one similar to Dave5Cs - with a 78:1 ratio. For overly tight nuts or rusty threads, it is THE tool for the job.
Once I break the nut loose, I use a cordless drill to run them off with the torque multiplier if the threads are rusty.

For properly torqued nuts, I find it easier to use a long bar and support the head of the wrench.
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86102A3

Danny, I purchased one from northern tool. I will remind you that the driver side lugs are most likely right hand thread. I looked all through the manual and it failed to mention that the driver side was opposite thread. So I spent time tightening lug nuts instead of loosening them. Good news is that I had brand studs and lug nuts to replace everything after it finally dawned on me to try to loosen them clockwise.


Jeff LoGiudice
Tampa, Fl.
1986 TMC 102A3
1999 Reliabilt 6V92TA
Allison HT740

dtcerrato

I use never seeze on all my hardware including the lug nuts, it remedies rust & hard breaks to loosen.
Dan & Sandy
North Central Florida
PD4104-129 since 1979
Toads: 2009 Jeep GC Limited 4X4 5.7L Hemi
             2008 GMC Envoy SLT 4x4 4.2L IL Vortec

Dave5Cs

Should be a L & F on the end of the lugs depending on which side you are taking off. I have seen installer put the wrong ones back one the wrong side and not say a word until I called them on it. Now I only do my own.
"Perfect Frequency"1979 MCI MC5Cs 6V-71,644MT Allison.
2001 Jeep Cherokee Sport 60th Anniversary edition.
1998 Jeep TJ ,(Gone)
Somewhere in the USA fulltiming.

kyle4501

The torque spec for the wheel nuts is almost always for dry threads - if you use any lubricant, you must reduce the applied torque or you will over tension the stud and deform the nut seat in the wheel.

Alcoa says that the nut & hole mating faces must be clean & DRY with no lubricant.

The reason the torque spec is for dry threads is consistent clamping force. When lubricants are used, the clamping force for a given torque is different for different oils.

Generally, lubricated thread torque is 75% of the dry torque spec - However, your mileage may vary . . . .


As a side note of caution,
I have experienced some wheels that were fully torqued, but had radial rust stains which indicate loose nuts - I marked the nut, counted turns to remove it - removed the wheel - put the nut back on the same number of turns & torqued it -- it was at the same position - the nut hole in the rim had been deformed due to excess torque being applied.

So please do be careful to do it properly.
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DoubleEagle

Yes, torque the nuts without lubricant. I once applied never-seize to some trailer hitch bolts and used a 1200 ft. lb. impact to tighten, it kept going until the class 8 bolt stretched and snapped. Definitely look for L's and R's on the ends of the wheel studs, it's easy to forget that little detail if you don't take the wheels off often.
Walter
Dayton, Ohio
1975 Silvereagle Model 05, 8V71, 4 speed Spicer
1982 Eagle Model 10, 6V92, 5 speed Spicer
1984 Eagle Model 10, 6V92 w/Jacobs, Allison HT740
1994 Eagle Model 15-45, Series 60 w/Jacobs, HT746

dtcerrato

Been using never seeze and air impact on steel wheels for almost 40 years - same bus, same wheels, no problems. Know the rules & use common sense, it keeps going only if you keep your hand on the trigger...
Dan & Sandy
North Central Florida
PD4104-129 since 1979
Toads: 2009 Jeep GC Limited 4X4 5.7L Hemi
             2008 GMC Envoy SLT 4x4 4.2L IL Vortec

kyle4501

Quote from: dtcerrato on December 11, 2016, 08:30:15 PM
Been using never seeze and air impact on steel wheels for almost 40 years - same bus, same wheels, no problems. Know the rules & use common sense, it keeps going only if you keep your hand on the trigger...

Glad that is working for you, but newbies may not have tools & experience like you - that is why I wanted to add a little more information -- details can make a difference.

I don't think using lubrication is wrong. I do KNOW that used improperly, it can lead to a host of problems.

I also know that 'paid professionals' can get it very wrong, so I try to educate myself & share what I've learned when I can.

Happy & safe bussin, y'all
Life is all about finding people who are your kind of crazy

Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please (Mark Twain)

Education costs money.  But then so does ignorance. (Sir Claus Moser)