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Started by daddysgirl, November 17, 2016, 04:00:01 AM

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luvrbus

Only draw back to welding cable it needs to be installed away from places where it gets oily and diesel fuel can spill on it 
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Oonrahnjay

Quote from: luvrbus on November 23, 2016, 10:56:47 AMOnly draw back to welding cable it needs to be installed away from places where it gets oily and diesel fuel can spill on it 

     Well, that's EASY, right???  I don't have any place on my bus where it gets oily and diesel fuel can spill on it.  Ummm, OK, I have *one* place ....
Bruce H; Wallace (near Wilmington) NC
1976 Daimler (British) Double-Decker Bus; 34' long

(New Email -- brucebearnc@ (theGoogle gmail place) .com)

brmax

Yes I recall you mentioned the cable in another post. I have made long jumper cables with a style like that before for equipment usage, works great in the cold.
Is there a part number for this cable?
And curious is this a recommendation they made for your starter battery cables.
If the need on a starter is found shipping is probably up there for these 40 series, there must be a rebuilder closer than 4 states away.

Good day
Floyd
1992 MC9
6V92
Allison

daddysgirl

The cable is "Excelene". It's oil, fuel and water resistant...600v...operating temp range +105C - -50C welding cable. I went with the flexible v. the rigid because getting rigid in some of those spaces isn't a good idea, IMO (and in the electricians opinion, where my opinion was confirmed when he explained that in buses, firetrucks etc...the motion of the vehicle can cause the strands in the rigid to break inside the sheath. I used the 2/0 on all three battery locations and 4/0 on the starter and starter ground. Dad always told me to up-size wiring whenever possible, and the electrical engineer who made the cables (for free BTW) explained why he agreed.
And I have now installed both, and I can say with complete certainty, the flexible cable is SOOOOO much better from a routing perspective. The original starter cable ran through the frame, and was flexible. I have cut off one side, still need to do the other. It hasn't started, but I did measure the voltage and it's fine. I still need to check all the relays, and possibly look at the stop and fast idle Skinner valves. I'll update that when it stops raining :)

The other thing I found (and instantly loved) is liquid electrical tape. It comes with a brush, and you paint it on any connection and in 5 minuet intervals, can build it up as thick as you want. And it can't unravel because it doesn't have tape ends.

This shop in Petersburg is 30 minutes from my house, and they do in-house rebuilds on any starter or alternator/generator . Because I'm a bus nut (and I ran a auto shop for 6 years) they let me wander around. I found the starter rebuild room. WOW. I haven't ever seen a 50 MT that had the battery terminal (and the entire terminal plate) falling out of the starter. There was also a new 40MT rebuild that was beautiful. Turns out, they are the shop that all the regional local governments use for outside fleet needs. I called the government shop my dad ran for 40 years and it's farther away than I am.

But they told me that if I need a starter, they'll give me one for 225.00 and I can return the core after it's replaced. I'm very thankful because even with my dads picture still on the office bulletin board of the local bus shop...a starter there would be closer to 500.00. 

And now I also have 4 brand new group 31's...made in Ohio...so I can install them and hook them up to my PD4590 electrical center in the bus, and begin the fantastic task of wiring the house. But only one or two things at a time. Gotta get her started, running, and the engine compartment back into the shape I demand.
Andrea   Richmond, VA
1974 MC8 8V71/HT740 new in 2000 and again in 2019-

Oonrahnjay

Quote from: daddysgirl on November 24, 2016, 07:42:58 AM... one or two things at a time. Gotta get her started, running, and the engine compartment back into the shape I demand. 

   Sounds like good work to me.  And yeah, started and running is a good place to start. 
Bruce H; Wallace (near Wilmington) NC
1976 Daimler (British) Double-Decker Bus; 34' long

(New Email -- brucebearnc@ (theGoogle gmail place) .com)