Like Scott - Broken down at rest stop, Water Pump Seal
 

Like Scott - Broken down at rest stop, Water Pump Seal

Started by Beachfinn, October 30, 2016, 08:14:46 PM

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Beachfinn

After finally getting the throttle issues solved in Tucson and meeting most awesome Scott and Heather... We made it 30 miles from Beaumont TX. Pulled into a rest stop and started setting up for the night. Noticed we needed few things and figured we head to beaumont Petro for the night. Bus would start but mislabeled warning light came on and bus shut down. Went outside and noticed a puddle of coolant, traced it down to behind the water pump. After quick phone consult with my new best friend at WW Williams in Tucson, figured its a broken seal on the pump, so coolant leaks through weep hole. Bus won't start because low coolant level. It never got hot , so...again timing is perfect. Not on side of busy highway and close to a big city (houston).

First thing in the morning calling Steward and Stevenson for a new pump and try to find mobile guy to replace it. Alternatively, see if it has fully drained, JB weld the hole, fill up and drive to S&S... I have to be in Tampa Wednesday.
Sami
'93 MCI 12
Full Timing Between Hotels and Coach

Need: Some bay doors, Front Signals, Steering Wheel, Drivers / Passangers Seats, Webasto, Stock Tinted windows

Scott & Heather

Bumping this to the top. I assumed once the pump leaked at the weephole it meant automatic pump replacement but I could be mistaken. Sami I almost think you could do this yourself if you needed to. Someone here replace their water pump that can chime in? He has a DDEC III 6v92


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John316

You are sure it is the seal? I have had a hose tear, close to the pump, and thought it was the seal.

Otherwise, you are correct. Have to get that sucker replaced.
Sold - MCI 1995 DL3. DD S60 with a Allison B500.

Beesme

When I bought my Newell last month I had bad seal . I just added coolant from my water supply and drove 2200 miles . It really leaks very little while driving and mine leaked pretty bad . I bought pump on eBay for 103$ when I got home . Real easy to change less than 2hrs . Cost more for coolant then the pump lol
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Beesme

Bruce E.                                                                        62 pd4106 vs730.                   
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Beachfinn

Yeah its a little bit more involved on this one. see picture, nobody is willing to do it at rest area...waiting a call back from steward and stevenson if they have one on the shelf. it did drain all the way, i collected about 5 gallons of coolant and there is probably another 5 on the ground. that came out in approximately 2 hours, so i think driving is out of question...
Sami
'93 MCI 12
Full Timing Between Hotels and Coach

Need: Some bay doors, Front Signals, Steering Wheel, Drivers / Passangers Seats, Webasto, Stock Tinted windows

Beachfinn

And yep, its definetly coming out of the weep hole  :(
Sami
'93 MCI 12
Full Timing Between Hotels and Coach

Need: Some bay doors, Front Signals, Steering Wheel, Drivers / Passangers Seats, Webasto, Stock Tinted windows

eagle19952

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Beachfinn

but on the left side (sorry the pic is sideways) is a block with sensors and plumbing. S&S does not have the part in stock, so im calling around.

am i correct in the assumption that if i try to JB weld the hole shut, i'll risk that coolant weeping into the engine/oil?
Sami
'93 MCI 12
Full Timing Between Hotels and Coach

Need: Some bay doors, Front Signals, Steering Wheel, Drivers / Passangers Seats, Webasto, Stock Tinted windows

brmax

If your calling around then its under consideration, um depending where its sent is also.
Your answer plugging; it has to go thru bearings first and under a bit of  pressure.
With the coolant cap sealed as normal it builds a bit of pressure, this is normal and doing it, in its weird way reduces the boiling point. Any system can run without much pressure or a cap "if" the engine can move the coolant well enough and keep enough in tank above from triggering a low coolant light and heat issue.
If I were to do other than repair it wouldn't be the plug.
In any other event the plan to r&r the pump is the a or b with the location.
Floyd
1992 MC9
6V92
Allison

buswarrior

Don't plug the weep hole.

That's why it is there.

happy coaching!
buswarrior
Frozen North, Greater Toronto Area
new project: 1995 MCI 102D3, Cat 3176b, Eaton Autoshift

Beachfinn

Well, the pump is ordered from factory, at small cost of $507. It will here before 10:30 tomorrow morning. Now just waiting to see who can start the work before that and put the new pump in right after i get it...
Sami
'93 MCI 12
Full Timing Between Hotels and Coach

Need: Some bay doors, Front Signals, Steering Wheel, Drivers / Passangers Seats, Webasto, Stock Tinted windows

luvrbus

You need somebody that knows how to set the back lash on the pump or it won't last long
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Beachfinn

Well, i cant get S&S service department call me back so the other company im looking at is Americorp Diesel, out of houston. They seem like a pretty big shop, obviously that means little...
Sami
'93 MCI 12
Full Timing Between Hotels and Coach

Need: Some bay doors, Front Signals, Steering Wheel, Drivers / Passangers Seats, Webasto, Stock Tinted windows

Beachfinn

trying to get a tow quote... $2k for 42 miles as of now  :o
Sami
'93 MCI 12
Full Timing Between Hotels and Coach

Need: Some bay doors, Front Signals, Steering Wheel, Drivers / Passangers Seats, Webasto, Stock Tinted windows