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Wheel studs (again)

Started by lostagain, October 30, 2016, 08:39:01 AM

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lostagain

Dave, I looked at Alcoa and Accuride sites, and I don't see studs.

JC
JC
Blackie AB
1977 MC5C, 6V92/HT740 (sold)
2007 Country Coach Magna, Cummins ISX (sold)

luvrbus

JC,I was told BWP-NSI in MO had the studs after I purchased mine give them a try

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Scott Crosby

Just grind your lugnuts down thinner ;) problem solved... hehe
61 GM Fishbowl TDH 4516 102" 35'
1947 GM PD 3751
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Jim Eh.

Looking at the design it would appear that clearance inside the brake drum would be an issue using another style of stud. We have done this on some obsolete equipment in the past. What we did was bore out the stud holes in the hub and drums to accept "normal" front wheel stud piloted studs. We used something similar to an E5868. This is pretty extreme but was cost effective in that situation.

Given that the drum side of the stud is an oddball size (7/8" - can you say captive market?) options are limited at best.

Steel wheels for the inspection and put back what has worked for years afterward would be the best route in my mind.
"Some days it's just not worth chewing through the restraints"
Jim Eh.
1996 MC12
6V92TA / HT741D
Winnipeg, MB.

luvrbus

I don't know if the guy at MCI knew what he talking about or not,he told me it was very rare for older MCI's since the 8 to be shipped with stud piloted aluminum wheels,they were all hub piloted
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lostagain

Spoke with Luke at US Coach. He has the longer ones, but by the time you convert to C$ (25%), then freight, it is more than I want to spend. The charter company that is doing the inspection thinks maybe the studs are the same as for a 102. I am taking one of my studs tomorrow there to see. I am not holding my breath. I have started looking for used steel wheels...

JC
JC
Blackie AB
1977 MC5C, 6V92/HT740 (sold)
2007 Country Coach Magna, Cummins ISX (sold)

luvrbus

I do hope you find those as they are pricey lol you can buy 2 new steel wheels for less than 1 set of studs
Life is short drink the good wine first

Jim Eh.

Quote from: luvrbus on November 01, 2016, 02:33:43 PM
I don't know if the guy at MCI knew what he talking about or not,he told me it was very rare for older MCI's since the 8 to be shipped with stud piloted aluminum wheels,they were all hub piloted

Remember back to the early 80's when hub piloted first came out and were manufactured by a company called Motorwheel. They were marketed under the the name "Unimounts". At the time Europe had already been using the system for quite a number of years. There was even a short period that the market supported kind of a hybrid system that used both systems, a ball faced nut and hub piloted rims. I guess it was a kind of "poop or get off the pot" period in transport and the death of ball faced nut stud pilot systems went down in quite a bit of a hurry.

Not too sure when the NA bus industry moved to them but maybe they only shipped aluminum wheels when mounted on a hub piloted system unlike trucks.
"Some days it's just not worth chewing through the restraints"
Jim Eh.
1996 MC12
6V92TA / HT741D
Winnipeg, MB.

buswarrior

My 1975 MC8 has hub pilot. My 1975 parts bus MC8 has stud pilot.

All depends what the original fleet ordered.

happy coaching!
buswarrior
Frozen North, Greater Toronto Area
new project: 1995 MCI 102D3, Cat 3176b, Eaton Autoshift

luvrbus

Quote from: buswarrior on November 03, 2016, 10:30:04 AM
My 1975 MC8 has hub pilot. My 1975 parts bus MC8 has stud pilot.

All depends what the original fleet ordered.

happy coaching!
buswarrior

That what the guy told me, and any ordered with Alcoa wheels would have been hub piloted
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