Broke down in Boise

[DoubleEagle]

Forgive my ignorance, I have never worked on a Series 60, just driven for many miles - was the bull gear primarily replaced because the SRS timing pin came out? I had the impression that the bull gear was good for about 800,000 - 1,000,000 miles, and that the bearings it rides on were the first things needing replacement during an overhaul, and that bull gears can be reconditioned. Was a new bull gear the only option?

[luvrbus]

If a bull or idler gears shows any wear chip,pits you replace both,the SRS pin is set at a certain depth if ever exceeds the set depth by .010 like Derricks did you are screwed it costs you a bull gear.I would never buy a re con bull gear just bite the bullet and buy a new one   

[DoubleEagle]

If a bull or idler gears shows any wear chip,pits you replace both,the SRS pin is set at a certain depth if ever exceeds the set depth by .010 like Derricks did you are screwed it costs you a bull gear.I would never buy a re con bull gear just bite the bullet and buy a new one   

Oh, I think it is safe to say that my personal money will not buy a bull gear or the engine it goes in. I will just be happy with my mechanical 2 cycle. These repair stories scare me sufficiently. Say, was the bull gear name ever shortened by any chance?

[luvrbus]

Yea but $32,000.00 for rebuild on a 8v71 or $55,000.00 for a 8v92 rebuild scares you too.Derrick's engine ECM is showing 1 million 100 thousand miles what is that less than a 1/2 cent a mile ? 

[DoubleEagle]

Yes, but did Derrick get the benefit of all of those million miles? I shudder to think what the full-blown overhaul cost for the Series 60 is. In today's market, it's cheaper to buy a decent conversion.

[opus]

Diagnostics for electronics engine,transmission,chassis and suspension $200.00 per hour  welcome to the world of electronics   

[Goes out and hugs his mechanical Cummins/Allison].

[thomasinnv]

It really doesn't matter....old or new, mechanical or electronic, thy can all break down

[Scott & Heather]

Horse and buggy


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[thomasinnv]

Horse and buggy


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Still the same principle today. The buggy has just gotten much larger and the horse is now made out of metal.

[Cary and Don]

Horse and buggy isn't cheap anymore. Shoes for that horse are over $100 every six weeks, hay at $20 a bale, let's not even talk about the vet. They make mechanics look cheap. If the engine goes, you can park it, that horse still eats, every day, lame or not. LOL

Cary

[Scott & Heather]

^ that .... Well said


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[busnut104]

where are you guys getting your rebuild done, I had a in frame done 5 yrs ago in my dump truck, still works great. new bearings cylinder kits, one new head. the other gone over, Turbo rebuilt, and what ever else 8500.00 out the door. This was on a silver 8v92 445 hp. Had this done in central Pa at a small shop. Oh I did have a new head. which I had bought for 500 dollars a few years earlier. Pays to shop if you have the time.   

[DoubleEagle]

Big shops expect big bucks, but their work is usually top notch done fairly quickly. Time is money, and they expect to cash in when you are in a hurry. Small shops and independent mechanics can save you a lot, if you have the time to wait, and are lucky that they do not cut corners.

[luvrbus]

Friggn parts are so expensive now for a 2 stroke from DD I don't use aftermarket liner kits and DD charges $487.00 ea for a kit.
If you buy a rebuilt head for a 8v92 that hasn't been welded before you pay $1200.00 up if you can find a new head they over $3000.00 and machine shops are charging 5 to 800 bucks each now to rebuild a old head .
A new crank will cost you over $4000.00 and the dance goes on if you need cams,blower work and so on it cost you to do one right

[thomasinnv]

My rear engine block to bellhousing is starting to leak. Called smith for an estimate to repair, came in at $3788. Thats to remove the power pack, do the repair, run the top end, and put it back in. I got a estimate from a little Shop in Vegas that "works on buses" to do the repair in place for  $1800. After my last experience with a "little Shop that can do the work " I'm thinking I'll just bite the bullet and pay Smith to do it. It will have to wait until spring since the money tree has withered up. It's not leaking really bad yet, about 1 quart in 1500 miles.