24v Battery Maintainer ?
 

24v Battery Maintainer ?

Started by luvrbus, July 29, 2016, 07:35:52 PM

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luvrbus

Will a 4 amp 3 stage maintainer keep 2-8D batteries charged I have a DDEC so there is always a little draw down on the batteries 
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Dave5Cs

Clifford don't think that will do it. I have a Marine Pro sport 3 way smart charger 12 Amp and it was said to be minimal for two Group 31's. Work good though.

https://www.amazon.com/ProMariner-43012-ProSport-Generation-Battery/dp/B00F5EBR1C
"Perfect Frequency"1979 MCI MC5Cs 6V-71,644MT Allison.
2001 Jeep Cherokee Sport 60th Anniversary edition.
1998 Jeep TJ ,(Gone)
Somewhere in the USA fulltiming.

chessie4905

GMC h8h 649#028 (4905)
Pennsylvania-central

bevans6

If the batteries are well charged to start with it should work fine.  I used a 5 amp 24 volt smart charger for years on my house bank and the start batteries, which were 8D's.  It took a really long time to actually charge the batteries, like a week or more, but it maintained them just fine.
1980 MCI MC-5C, 8V-71T from a M-110 self propelled howitzer
Allison MT-647
Tatamagouche, Nova Scotia

Dave5Cs

But he also has a draw off it so if it sits for any length of time you will be having to fully charge it to be able for it to maintain them. Depends on how many amps are being used for the per-acidic loads.
Dave
"Perfect Frequency"1979 MCI MC5Cs 6V-71,644MT Allison.
2001 Jeep Cherokee Sport 60th Anniversary edition.
1998 Jeep TJ ,(Gone)
Somewhere in the USA fulltiming.

luvrbus

This is what I will be using the Pulse/Tech DCS-24 military issue maintainer I came across a box (8 new) from a government auction at a bargain. FWIW Pulse/Tech will not give out any information on these because it's government specs that kinda sucks it's not a secret weapon   ??? it's a friggn charger
Life is short drink the good wine first

gumpy

Put an amp meter on your battery and see what the draw is when everything is "off". That should tell you if the 4 amp charger is sufficient. Most cheap meters are capable of 10 amp reading.

Craig Shepard
Located in Minnesquito

http://bus.gumpydog.com - "Some Assembly Required"

luvrbus

They are made I believe to work on the std military 6TL battery which is a 8-D in half for the price of a full 8D ;D,I will keep you guys posted on the outcome tied to 2-8Ds   
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Oonrahnjay

Quote from: luvrbus on July 30, 2016, 06:49:42 AMThey are made I believe to work on the std military 6TL battery which is a 8-D in half for the price of a full 8D ;D,I will keep you guys posted on the outcome tied to 2-8Ds   

     I hope it works for you, Clifford.  I've run across situations where an electronically-controlled "smart" charger seems to get derailed by extra loads.  If you put them on a battery that's on its own, they seem to see what the battery needs and do a good job with that.  But if you ask them to supply loads in addition to keeping the battery maintained, they seem to get "confused" about what's needed.  Sometime, they seem to put out too much amperage and other times not enough and your battery runs down.  But a "dumb charger" has its risks, too.  I dunno ...
Bruce H; Wallace (near Wilmington) NC
1976 Daimler (British) Double-Decker Bus; 34' long

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thomasinnv

This winter i am going to change the house system over to 24v. (Actually just the inverter and solar system, i will use a vanner to supply the 12v for the lights, water pump, etc) and I plan on installing something like this

http://www.ebay.com/itm/252449159828

It will automatically connect the house and chassis banks together any time either one of them is being charged ie. Plugged into shore power or running down the road, and it has built in option for emergency starting capability.
Some are called, some are sent, some just got up and went.

1998 MCI 102-DL3
Series 60 12.7/Alison B500
95% converted (they're never really done, are they?)

TomC

What about using two solar panel chargers? (one on each battery since you're wired to 24v). I have a solar panel charger that is about 18" square that keeps my 4-31's up to charge on my truck
Tom & Donna Christman. 1985 Kenworth 40ft Super C with garage. '77 AMGeneral 10240B; 8V-71TATAIC V730.

pvcces

Hi, Cliff.

In my experience, batteries the size we use in these buses have less than 1 amp self discharge, so I would expect the charger you have to do the job. Also,we had good results using a Pulse-Tech.

Good luck on your project.

Tom Caffrey
Tom Caffrey PD4106-2576
Suncatcher
Ketchikan, Alaska

Lin

We currently have two telecom batteries for the house.  They weigh 100+ pounds each, so I would say they are equivalent to 4d's.  They are on a float charge with the inverter now and are drawing .6 amps together.
You don't have to believe everything you think.

luvrbus

With the electronics on mine it draws over a amp.I don't want to disconnect the batteries it causes you problems when the backup battery for the clock goes south in a DDEC 
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thomasinnv

Hey cliff are you saying you are still drawing over an amp with the main disconnect off in the battery compartment? Or is that with it on? According to da book the ddec still has power with the disconnect off.
Some are called, some are sent, some just got up and went.

1998 MCI 102-DL3
Series 60 12.7/Alison B500
95% converted (they're never really done, are they?)