Treating Ramps
 

Treating Ramps

Started by Lin, May 27, 2016, 09:47:55 AM

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Lin

I am guessing that my ramps are 6-7 years old.  They do show the effects of weathering, although here that is mostly UV exposure and not much rain.  I was using them recently when changing the transmission oil on my Jeep and accidentally tilted the drain pan when moving it causing a bunch of oil to spill on one of the ramps.  Today, I was looking at the ramp and noticed that all the oil had been absorbed and that ramp looked much better than the other.  So, I had the thought that before recycling all of this oil, I could use some to give the ramps a good dosing.  I realize that there are specialized products to use to help maintain the wood but wondered if this stuff would work.  I have engine oil, transmission oil, and gear oil waiting to be recycled.
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eagle19952

dunno...but i have run gallons of drainings thru chain saws in lieu of bar oil :)
Donald PH
1978 Model 05 Eagle w/Torsilastic Suspension,8V71 N, DD, Allison on 24.5's 12kw Kubota.

chessie4905

Done that on wood trailer decks over the years. Works fine and repels water and keeps bugs away.
GMC h8h 649#028 (4905)
Pennsylvania-central

DoubleEagle

It will surely increase the life of the wood, but use lighter oil so that it can penetrate and not remain so much on the surface. If you were to use gear oil it would hang around longer and make the wood slippery. If the ramp is steep, the oiling might not be a good idea.
Walter
Dayton, Ohio
1975 Silvereagle Model 05, 8V71, 4 speed Spicer
1982 Eagle Model 10, 6V92, 5 speed Spicer
1984 Eagle Model 10, 6V92 w/Jacobs, Allison HT740
1994 Eagle Model 15-45, Series 60 w/Jacobs, HT746

Lin

So maybe the transmission oil would be the best.  Could even thin it a little with diesel.
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lostagain

Treating wood with used oil is better use for it than adding it to the fuel tank, ...

JC
JC
Blackie AB
1977 MC5C, 6V92/HT740 (sold)
2007 Country Coach Magna, Cummins ISX (sold)

DoubleEagle

There might be limits as to how good a preservative oil is with wood. This thread reminds me of some 6X6" landscape timbers I bought in New York in the 1970's that were dipped in a tank of used motor oil. They looked dark and uniform, but it was not as effective as pressure treated ones. They were used to build a retaining wall, and were invaded by termites within 10 years. The oil only penetrated under an inch into the wood.
Walter
Dayton, Ohio
1975 Silvereagle Model 05, 8V71, 4 speed Spicer
1982 Eagle Model 10, 6V92, 5 speed Spicer
1984 Eagle Model 10, 6V92 w/Jacobs, Allison HT740
1994 Eagle Model 15-45, Series 60 w/Jacobs, HT746

Lin

The ramps are made of doug fir.  Each one is made of 4 ft 4x8's that are bolted together. I suppose one could make them of pressure treated lumber, but they would be a good deal heavier.
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DoubleEagle

Just keep them out of contact with the soil if you can, that will increase their lifespan.
Walter
Dayton, Ohio
1975 Silvereagle Model 05, 8V71, 4 speed Spicer
1982 Eagle Model 10, 6V92, 5 speed Spicer
1984 Eagle Model 10, 6V92 w/Jacobs, Allison HT740
1994 Eagle Model 15-45, Series 60 w/Jacobs, HT746

Lin

Quote from: DoubleEagle on May 28, 2016, 07:54:07 AM
Just keep them out of contact with the soil if you can, that will increase their lifespan.

Hey, if I don't let them touch the ground, how can I use them as ramps?
You don't have to believe everything you think.

HB of CJ

Respectfully, using oiled wood ramps that old made from Fir may be counter productive?  Kinda like repacking over and over that old parachute?  Failure not an option?

Would it be possible to consider fabricating your own designed HD STEEL ramps?  Might be a fun doable project.  Also HD steel ramps are now available?  Respectfully always.

Lin

Interesting question.  Since I believe many here have made their own wooden ramps, I am curious to see if it is commonly felt that they have a projected lifespan, like tires, even if they appear to be fine.  How often do you rebuild your ramps??
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DoubleEagle

Quote from: Lin on May 28, 2016, 08:36:57 AM
Hey, if I don't let them touch the ground, how can I use them as ramps?

Ground - meaning topsoil or grass. On top of crushed stone or concrete that is drained is what I am referring to. The idea of using something stronger is worth considering, after all, a bus is around 15 tons. Softwood timbers are not the same capacity as hardwood timbers or steel.
Walter
Dayton, Ohio
1975 Silvereagle Model 05, 8V71, 4 speed Spicer
1982 Eagle Model 10, 6V92, 5 speed Spicer
1984 Eagle Model 10, 6V92 w/Jacobs, Allison HT740
1994 Eagle Model 15-45, Series 60 w/Jacobs, HT746

Lin

Sorry Walter, just kidding around.  We are in a desert, so the ground in our yard is very dry, very hard-packed sand/clay mix.  I am curious to see what others say they use.  I had thought the fir was common.
You don't have to believe everything you think.

DoubleEagle

I did not realize you were so far out west, fir timber must be very common. The pressure treated wood out east is mostly southern pine, which I do not trust for any serious spanning because of the many knots in the wood. If you throw a timber off the truck and it does not snap when it hits the ground (of any kind) then it might be strong enough. Maybe you could put steel strapping or grids on the wood to reinforce what you have.
Walter
Dayton, Ohio
1975 Silvereagle Model 05, 8V71, 4 speed Spicer
1982 Eagle Model 10, 6V92, 5 speed Spicer
1984 Eagle Model 10, 6V92 w/Jacobs, Allison HT740
1994 Eagle Model 15-45, Series 60 w/Jacobs, HT746