cat 3406 e not starting

[luvrbus]

Do you have manuals ? maybe Jon will come along soon he owns a V5000 with the 550 hp Cat engine.I am sure it's a interlock problem where I have no idea other than the HWH slides   

[sledhead]

LOTS of binders that came with it but the only one missing is the hwh slide out book .....

just my luck

I was thinking of going over to the prevost site as they made the same year featherlit vogue in a prevost and I am sure most of the outside supplied stuff is the same

thanks   dave

[luvrbus]

I doubt the Prevost and V5000 are even close the V5000 was Harvey Michell's ground up idea to compete with his neighbor Karl Blades @ Newell.Featherlite only built those for 1 years before shutting down the plant in Pryor Ok I drove by one day and the plant was closed   

[sledhead]

every thing in the coach has a built in florida address but who knows . from what I could find they made this  model 1999 . 2000 and 2001

hows your french ?   mine sucks!

http://www.autotrader.ca/a/Featherlite+Vogue/VANTARÉ+VOGUE+5000/Mirabel/Quebec/5_25109957_20060316112858535/?ms=rv

dave  

[luvrbus]

1999 was the last ones built in Pryor I would like to have the V6000 but very few of those around,it could be Featherlite/ Vantre did build a few 

[sledhead]

ya the v6000 look amazing but I here they had lots of problems with all the coach electrical stuff . not like I have to worry about that . oh ya it won't start

dave

[luvrbus]

I spent a lot of time at Vogue in Pryor Ok I would watch the electrical harness being built by hand and think to myself OMG a Amish building a wiring harness

[Scott & Heather]

If my bus doesn't start....it's:

Dead batteries
No fuel
Too cold


That's it. Haha. Gotta love the mechanical 6v92.

Until you get yours started....then you win the power war :-(


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[John Ostmoe]

We didn't get the hwh manuals with our v 5000 but hwh has the downloads available on line.
good luck
John

[jackhanow]

So are You turning the key off at the control switch. I read the manual and it doesn't say anything about safeties built in just that you should let the pump run for 4 seconds after the slide is retracted to pressurize The cylinders.

[sledhead]

....... ITS ALIVE !!!!!!

my mechanic guy is great ! had it running in about 20 minutes , it was a safety shut down on the remote solenoid right at the rear engine start panel .
we removed the safety wire and grounded the solenoid and it fired right up and drove fine . now we have it narrowed down to the leveling valve and just need to find the bad one but now I can start on the remodel.

life in bus land is good again . now the fun begins

thanks for all the help !     

dave

[TomC]

When I was selling Freightliners and Western Starts, we would automatically put at least 1 year of warranty tow on new trucks. With all the electronics now on new Diesels (I frankly am amazed they even run), it isn't if, but when you break down. It's not like the old days that driver's could get down the road no matter what.
On my truck with the mechanical Cat 3406B, my shut down solenoid on the fuel injection shorted out turning off the engine in the middle of the Rockies (when you deliver furniture, you go where no other trucks do). So I just removed the solenoid and drove down the road with the hole in the injection pump. A few drops of oil came out, but nothing serious. The next morning when the engine was cold, I cut a piece of aluminum foil and siliconed it in place. I then drove that way for 6 weeks before I found the solenoid-they were on back order-obviously I wasn't the only one with that problem. How did I turn it off? Turned on the Jake brake, rev it a bit, then let it stall itself (Jakes were an after thought and were not installed properly-when in this case I was thankful for). Good Luck, TomC

[sledhead]

the part that pisses me off is in all the books and binders that came from the dealership for the rv I could not find any trouble shooting ideas ? 

how hard would it be to give a small amount of advice on a emergency shut down by pass system to get you out of harms way even if it was a max speed of 5 or 10 mph to get off the road or to a better place

some times as we go forward in life we end up going back wards

dave   

[Scott & Heather]

That's it....with all this scary talk about buses going obsolete and electronics failing and tow companies not wanting to tow us.....I'm going horse and buggy. Big buggy. Like 10 draft horses and 40 foot buggy big.


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[luvrbus]

That's it....with all this scary talk about buses going obsolete and electronics failing and tow companies not wanting to tow us.....I'm going horse and buggy. Big buggy. Like 10 draft horses and 40 foot buggy big.


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Funny Scott,I been through all of it buses,boats,airplanes and helicopters it is what is enjoy.Now if you want to spend some big money for something totally useless buy you a horse BTDT.
A quote from my granddad "It's only money you can't take it with you but you sure as hell won't go any place with out it".
You full timers do alright if the neighbors piss you off you just move and you own your home.
I don't owe on my home or shop we have never had mortgage in 47 years but I don't own my home I just lease from the taxing authorities.I do admire you guys full timing not a life style for everybody but it makes sense to me now being older and wiser now keep on buddy somebody out will tow the bus 

PS I have seen the Amish in Pryor OK towing a bus with horses before and I still laugh  when it pops into my mind