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Prevost air door locks

Started by bigred, April 05, 2016, 11:57:11 AM

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luvrbus

Quote from: Boomer on April 06, 2016, 08:45:03 AM
You should call your Prevost regional tech rep.  They can walk you through the problem over the phone and solve the problem in no time.  That should be your first call not a bus board.

Good advice if it is chassis related but they don't do answers for the conversion part as they have no idea what the converter did even with the guide lines Prevost recommends converters get outside the box
Life is short drink the good wine first

Jon

I fully agree with Clifford on this one. With almost any other conversion where the converter had only an air or electric connection to the chassis, and left the chassis stuff alone I would agree with Boomer, but CC had a lot of crossover into the chassis side and now those features that might have been nice at one time are beginning to haunt owners.
Jon

Current coach 2006 Prevost, Liberty conversion
Knoxville, TN

Boomer

Well, that goes without saying and I guess a lot of owners are not knowledgable enough to know that you don't call a tech rep for a refrigerator problem. Our tech reps got a lot of calls for that kind of stuff, lol. I will say that CC or Vantare would not be my first choice.
'81 Eagle 15/45, NO MORE
'47 GM PD3751-438, NO MORE
'65 Crown Atomic, NO MORE
'48 Kenworth W-1 highway coach, NO MORE
'93 Vogue IV, NO MORE
1964 PD4106-2846
North Idaho USA

luvrbus

Boomer,I do the Coachnet RV Technical Assistance Hot Line for a couple of months a year or till I cannot take it any longer  ??? you would not believe the questions people ask that has nothing to do with the power train.
I got a call from a new owner with a new diesel pusher he was at a Pilot and ask me what grade of gasoline does he use in the RV as he wanted what was best for the engine I had to gather myself to keep from telling him 89 octane will be fine but I didn't ;D 
Life is short drink the good wine first

bigred

Boomer, I try my best to not appear as an idiot when I go looking for help,but with CC ,often the things that you would think be bus related has been interfaced with CC'S better idea .You guys probably remember the problem that I had with the Webasto on this coach.In the Prevost literature every thing was pretty cut and dried ,but true to form, CC added their touch.In the engine compartment was a 6x6 jb that was full of wires that were coiled and placed in there.On the side of this box is a toggle switch.No mention of this box anywhere in any of the literature that I have and the only marking's on the box was a piece of Dymo embossing tape saying "flood light".Well after we finally did find out why the Webasto was not getting 12 volts ,here is what we found.They ran a wire all the way to the back of the bus then back to the "heater on"indicator"then back to the battery bay where the Webasto breakers ETC are located.The reason we were not getting 12 volts to the heater was that in the back of the afore mentioned box were two little relay's behind all the wires.One of these fed the Webasto and was bad. The other one fed the flood lights in the rear bumper.There was not a square inch of the front of the bus we didn't check looking for that relay.The switch on the box?? It is a way to turn the flood lights in the rear bumper of and on!!!   
Rhet Raby           137 Elk Mtn Rd       Asheville N c 28804             1993 Prevost XL

luvrbus

LOL you have your work cut out BigRed the AC circuit on a CC Prevost is not much better.I have a friend with a CC converted Eagle it's a night mare also.I will say CC has some nice wood work maybe a overkill but is it nice   
Life is short drink the good wine first

DoubleEagle

Quote from: luvrbus on April 06, 2016, 08:15:24 PM
Boomer,I do the Coachnet RV Technical Assistance Hot Line for a couple of months a year or till I cannot take it any longer  ??? you would not believe the questions people ask that has nothing to do with the power train.
I got a call from a new owner with a new diesel pusher he was at a Pilot and ask me what grade of gasoline does he use in the RV as he wanted what was best for the engine I had to gather myself to keep from telling him 89 octane will be fine but I didn't ;D 

Ah, you could have compromised and told him to use Kerosene from the short hose pump!
Walter
Dayton, Ohio
1975 Silvereagle Model 05, 8V71, 4 speed Spicer
1982 Eagle Model 10, 6V92, 5 speed Spicer
1984 Eagle Model 10, 6V92 w/Jacobs, Allison HT740
1994 Eagle Model 15-45, Series 60 w/Jacobs, HT746

Boomer

That's good to know you're a tech rep for Coach Net Clifford, next time I need to put oil in I'll call you to find out what kind, lol.
'81 Eagle 15/45, NO MORE
'47 GM PD3751-438, NO MORE
'65 Crown Atomic, NO MORE
'48 Kenworth W-1 highway coach, NO MORE
'93 Vogue IV, NO MORE
1964 PD4106-2846
North Idaho USA

luvrbus

LOL don't you know if was a 2 stroke DD they would hear the words Mobil Delvac 1240
Life is short drink the good wine first

bandsaw

Hello, on my 98 Prevost H3 (tour bus conversion) I was locked out. The emergency door valve did not let the door open.  My coach was running and the only door key I had was on the ring with the ignition key.  The guy that sold me the bus drove up and gave me another key.  Now I always carry 2 keys, one in my pocket and another in the ignition. I also leave the little window open so I can reach in and shut off the bus and get to the keys.  When I am parked I disable the door air latches by shutting off a circuit breaker and the emergency air valve.  If I leave the breaker on with the front door open the energized solenoids drain the battery down in 24 hours. 

As far as complicated design I am worried about the ac/heat controls there are several circuit boards with many wires.  Fortunately, I was able to fix the ac on the bus by stopping refrigerant leaks and adjusting valves. 

My most complicated fix was on the front heater fan.  I turned on the fan switch and it did not go.  I opened the dash covers and saw the fan motor wires and several additional wires going in to a control box.  I got my multimeter started to open the control box.  I stopped the disassembly and grabbed a large screw driver and hit the control box with the handle of the screw driver.  The fan started and it has worked great for the last year.

Thanks, Bandsaw






















bigred

Well Folks we fixed the air door lock and as we suspected it was one of those red square plugs losing connection.If you ever have something to just stop working all of a sudden ,start looking for these red plugs and and wiggling wires.Don't know what happens to these things but they sure will stop making contact.replace these things with but splices and heat shrinks and that is the end of the problem.Thanks so much for all your input .It sure made for some interesting conversations!!
Rhet Raby           137 Elk Mtn Rd       Asheville N c 28804             1993 Prevost XL

bigred

We have fought that battle also Bandsaw.Our control box called "fan blower control unit "burnt to a cinder!! Don't know if yours uses the same control unit as my '93 xl does or not ,but if so it is a Prevost pn 871059      $533.13.Must be a part that goes out quite often since they have "ample"stock at all their locations!!
Rhet Raby           137 Elk Mtn Rd       Asheville N c 28804             1993 Prevost XL

luvrbus

Don't be so hard on Prevost Red and just think about it you could have the self closing door fun,fun and more fun  ??? I hate that frigging door
Life is short drink the good wine first

eagle19952

What the heck are red plugs... ::) ??? ::)
Donald PH
1978 Model 05 Eagle w/Torsilastic Suspension,8V71 N, DD, Allison on 24.5's 12kw Kubota.

bigred

Luvrbus ,I'll bet that thing is a trip !! And I guess if you replaced it with any thing else ,it would look like FIDO'S BUTT!!
Rhet Raby           137 Elk Mtn Rd       Asheville N c 28804             1993 Prevost XL