Broken throttle cable_need help
 

Broken throttle cable_need help

Started by Bing, March 20, 2016, 06:11:00 PM

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Bing

I have a 1961 GM 4106 with a broken throttle cable.
This not an emergency the bus is in a secure storage location in the Phoenix, AZ area.
I am looking for some advice where I might find some help.

Dwight Binge

206 240 3278

debmlb@msn.com

luvrbus

Call Kevin @602-810-1845 he can fix you up
Life is short drink the good wine first

buswarrior

Put "Morse" or "Teleflex" cables into your search engine.

happy coaching!
buswarrior

Frozen North, Greater Toronto Area
new project: 1995 MCI 102D3, Cat 3176b, Eaton Autoshift

luvrbus

He can buy the cable at DDI Equipment on 7th #602-510-7123 they custom make the cables but it's a bear to install 
Life is short drink the good wine first

azdieselman

Quote from: luvrbus on March 20, 2016, 07:31:46 PM
He can buy the cable at DDI Equipment on 7th #602-510-7123 they custom make the cables but it's a bear to install 

SCOTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



I'll try and help you. Call me tomorrow. 602-810-1845
1980 Mod 10

luvrbus

Quote from: azdieselman on March 20, 2016, 07:39:25 PM
SCOTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



I'll try and help you. Call me tomorrow. 602-810-1845

LOL I don't think he wants a 7 or 8 grand throttle cable Kevin
Life is short drink the good wine first

azdieselman

This might be a good application for air controls.
1980 Mod 10

luvrbus

Quote from: azdieselman on March 20, 2016, 08:32:07 PM
This might be a good application for air controls.


If he is smart that is the way to go that cable can be a bitch to remove and replace
Life is short drink the good wine first

bevans6

I thought GM cables were simple steel cables run inside of steel tubes, pull one out, pull or push the new one through.  I know the morse type cable on my MCI was a bear to change, a morse cable fished through tiny holes pierced through many bulkheads.  At the end of the day I pulled my old cable back in, and pulled the new cable by bolting it to the old, taping very carefully and lots of grease.
1980 MCI MC-5C, 8V-71T from a M-110 self propelled howitzer
Allison MT-647
Tatamagouche, Nova Scotia

luvrbus

Quote from: bevans6 on March 21, 2016, 04:57:25 AM
I thought GM cables were simple steel cables run inside of steel tubes, pull one out, pull or push the new one through.  I know the morse type cable on my MCI was a bear to change, a morse cable fished through tiny holes pierced through many bulkheads.  At the end of the day I pulled my old cable back in, and pulled the new cable by bolting it to the old, taping very carefully and lots of grease.


True if the housing is not bad but most are so old wore out and broken you replace it with a Morse cable not fun so people go with the Williams makes life easier
Life is short drink the good wine first

TedCalvert

Having a 4104 with the usual added spring at the governor to compensate for the dried-out grease in the cable, and now the XL with air throttle, I'd vote for air!  The cable in the 4104 wasn't broken, it was just way heavy because someone had added spring.  I removed cable, flushed housing with kerosene, iirc, soaked cable in kerosene and/or solvent, packed in LubriPlate grease and replaced.  Removed the added spring, not needed.  Worked well.

But if you just want to repair what you have, I hear Luke Bonagura is the go-to guy for parts.

Have fun.

Tikvah

Seriously look at the air throttle.  One of the best things I ever did to my bus!
1989 MCI-102 A3
DD 6V92 Turbo, Alison
Tons of stuff to learn!
Started in Cheboygan, Michigan (near the Mackinaw Bridge).  Now home is anywhere we park
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dtcerrato

I'm running original linkage (throttle cable) on our 53 4104. From everything I've read and the practical experience over the years it's best to "dry lube" the factory cable. Wet greasing attracts dirt, dust, & traps moisture creates drag thus the need for stronger spring action. After cleaning out the tubing with a evaporating oil-less solvent and using dry graphite to lubricate - the factory cable performs decades later as it was designed to and effortlessly easy.
Dan & Sandy
North Central Florida
PD4104-129 since 1979
Toads: 2009 Jeep GC Limited 4X4 5.7L Hemi
             2008 GMC Envoy SLT 4x4 4.2L IL Vortec

Bing

Thank you everyone for the great response. It sounds that obtaining a new cable
might not be a problem, which is a relief.

What I think caused the  cable to break was that the steel tube (conduit) for the cable
separated and unattached at the bulkhead forward of the engine.

I had some roadside repairs that got me to Phoenix. Now I need something more
permanent that I am unable to do my self.

I afraid I need recommendations for a repair shop.