Touch n Seal Spray Foam

[jav9956]

Does anyone have experience with Touch n Seal Spray foam?

I have been deciding between rigid foam with spray around the edges to seal it in place or just spending a little more cash and buying a DIY spray foam kit. One e-bay you can get Touch n Seal for $582 and has free shipping, the kit theoretically covers 600 board feet (12" x 12" x 1"). It is closed cell and that is the only spray I will buy. If I spray foam I would get two of these kits to do a 2" thick spray in the walls and the ceiling. I know it is an extremely messy job, I would like to know if anyone has experience with the product itself or a similar product and what they thought of it.

Cheers

[luvrbus]

I haven't used Touch and Spray we are doing a remodel on a rental using Versi/Foam from www.bestmaterials.com all the stuff is nasty though.
I am using 2.80 PCF in the walls and not getting the 400 sf yield it is more like 300 sf and the 1.75 PCF is more like 500 sf instead of the 600 sf advertised so I wouldn't bank on the coverage.
It is to late now but if I had a do over I would go with the 2 inch foam board easy to use without the white suit and the acetone all it takes is a razor knife,tape and a can of spray foam for the edges  

good luck  

[jav9956]

You don't feel that you would be getting better insulation going the spray foam route? It seems like it would be much easier to get gaps using foam board.

I do like the fact that foam board is cheaper for the whole project. I am going to calculate actual price differences and will post when I have them this evening. Home Depot has 2" R-Max foam board with a radiant barrier.

Would you still use a vapor barrier between the inside face of the foam board and the outside edge of the finished (interior) wall?

[flynbanjo]

We used touch n foam to insulate around the bends in the ceiling.  The board feet advertised on the box is a theoretical number.  We didn't get anywhere near the number they claimed .  It took us 3 kits of the 200 board feet product to just do the curves in ceiling at a cost of nearly $1000.00.  Watch the color of the product carefully.  When the two products mix, the foam should be light yellow.  If you start to see white or dark yellow you should stop, one of the containers is empty.  Besides the high cost and low yield, the product is okay. 

[jav9956]

We used touch n foam to insulate around the bends in the ceiling.  The board feet advertised on the box is a theoretical number.  We didn't get anywhere near the number they claimed .  It took us 3 kits of the 200 board feet product to just do the curves in ceiling at a cost of nearly $1000.00.  Watch the color of the product carefully.  When the two products mix, the foam should be light yellow.  If you start to see white or dark yellow you should stop, one of the containers is empty.  Besides the high cost and low yield, the product is okay. 

Thanks for the info... that is a lot more than I calculated I would need!
Out of curiosity, is there a reason you went with smaller batches of 200 bf. The price per bf goes down quite a bit if you buy the larger 600 bf size.

[Melbo]

I bought a 600 bf kit and used it up.  I then did the math of how much more I would need to do the kind of job I wanted. I called a local spray foam contractor and got a bid.  I let him finish the job and it cost less than if I did it my self and I did not have to do the work.  When I trimmed the foam to finish the inside I discovered that his foam was much more rigid than what I had done.

Just what worked for me.

HTH

melbo

[solardude]

My experience mirrors Melbo's, previous owner started with several of the 600bf kits, ran short ALL over, spent thousands.. I spent days cleaning up and digging out half filled cavities then called the nearest pro to finish the job, the pro work looks great, and is twice as dense. I paid $1500 and and several hundred more on rigid foam for the walls.

Solardude

[jav9956]

That sounds about right, expensive no matter how you slice it. I have only gotten one quote from 1 person so far and that was around $2300. At that price I am definitely going to be doing the rigid foam. I should be able to get the job done for about $700 with the rigid foam.

[Tom Y]

If you use spray cans around the board you don't have to use a whole can. Store upside down and trim off end and it will work. That is the route I went and I saved the straws on the cans and keep using 1 when doing a lot. Tom

[Tom Y]

I also covered over all the metal with a thin foam. Not sure if it helped.

[Tom Y]

Looked at pics, the blue board is a foil foam. Hope this helps

[Nel]

I found this nozzle that attaches to your spray foam can straw that fans out the foam as you spray it. I found it on you tube under poor mans spray foam diy by Drew peterson . the nozzle is yellow if you look for it and it worked great on the vertical surfaces of my 4104, I did all the walls pretty cheap, check out his video of how to use it. Nelson

[chessie4905]

I've installed a pipe cleaner in nozzle tube after using. Just pull it out when house the can the next time. Use a new pipe cleaner the next time.

[luvrbus]

You can check the refer truck shops like Great Dane most have the capability to do the spray foam and are fairly reasonable in price.My project is going to over run quite a bit hind sight I should have paid the foam guy or used foam board and been done with it. I am already at his price just in materials  @ 2/3 complete   

[TomC]

Spraying foam insulation is one job I'll ALWAYS get done. I had American Foam do both the bus and truck. They spray the foam and grind it down all in one trip. It is the best spent about $2,000 you could ever spend. Mainly too because they have professional equipment and the chemical is professional too. Even with their professional equipment, they had to stop several times to clean the tip of the spray gun. Good Luck, TomC