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How often should you replace a muffler?

Started by Seangie, February 13, 2016, 01:34:02 AM

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Tikvah

Looks like no free lunch.  I thought I could get a cheaper muffler, even if a bit louder.  But this is a strange beast. 

I just can't justify $500 + for a muffler.
1989 MCI-102 A3
DD 6V92 Turbo, Alison
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luvrbus

Most buses are that way Dave,Sean's factory muffler for his Eagle is a hi dollar sucker,the last one I priced for the Eagle I owned with a 8v92 Jefferson said 800 bucks so I sold the bus and let Matt worry about it ;D   
Life is short drink the good wine first

Tikvah

QuoteRule of thumb Dave a muffler for a DD needs to be 2+ times the CFM of the air cleaner,Donaldson has a formula for figuring it on their web page bigger is better IMO

I haven't any idea what that means.  I'm not as edukated as some folks  :)
How could you possibly know the CFM of the air cleaner?

Anyway, Tom posted a M120131 Donaldson MUFFLER that shows on Ebay for $181.81 + shipping.  There are specs for CFM but I wouldn't know where to start.

Dave
1989 MCI-102 A3
DD 6V92 Turbo, Alison
Tons of stuff to learn!
Started in Cheboygan, Michigan (near the Mackinaw Bridge).  Now home is anywhere we park
http://dave-amy.com/

luvrbus

Just trying to help you Dave, sorry carry on with what you are doing  :o
Life is short drink the good wine first

eagle19952

Quote from: Tikvah on February 15, 2016, 06:00:49 AM
I haven't any idea what that means.  I'm not as edukated as some folks  :)
How could you possibly know the CFM of the air cleaner?

Anyway, Tom posted a M120131 Donaldson MUFFLER that shows on Ebay for $181.81 + shipping.  There are specs for CFM but I wouldn't know where to start.

Dave

LOOK HERE  ::) it's actually a little more than double....more is better... on both ends

http://www.asia.donaldson.com/en/exhaust/support/datalibrary/1053747.pdf

8V-71n............
.........................CFM........................CFM
RPM........HP.......IN Flow.....Temp....EX FLOW
1800 ...... 233......753........ 850 .......1827
2300 ...... 314......954........ 850 .......2314
2100 ...... 304......874... .....850 .......2120
Donald PH
1978 Model 05 Eagle w/Torsilastic Suspension,8V71 N, DD, Allison on 24.5's 12kw Kubota.

Seangie

Cliff - we all know Jefferson is proud (real proud) of their parts.  I always ask them first (cause they have it) and divide by two to figure what I should be paying for it.

I think I like the glasspacks.  Simple and easy.  Maybe Ill split my 5" to dual 3.5s side by side.  Would sound nice and plenty of airflow.  60 bucks a piece for one.

Now if I can just find a 5" to dual 3.5" pipe.

-Sean
'Cause you know we,
we live in a van (Eagle 10 Suburban)
Driving through the night
To that old promised land'

Oonrahnjay

Quote from: Seangie on February 15, 2016, 11:20:05 AM
Cliff - we all know Jefferson is proud (real proud) of their parts.  I always ask them first (cause they have it) and divide by two to figure what I should be paying for it.

I think I like the glasspacks.  Simple and easy.  Maybe Ill split my 5" to dual 3.5s side by side.  Would sound nice and plenty of airflow.  60 bucks a piece for one.

Now if I can just find a 5" to dual 3.5" pipe.

-Sean

     Hey, Sean - how about a plain "Y" and then 5-to-3 1/2 reducers on each side? 

http://www.truckpipestore.com/all-5-pipe-types
Bruce H; Wallace (near Wilmington) NC
1976 Daimler (British) Double-Decker Bus; 34' long

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RoyJ

Quote from: Seangie on February 15, 2016, 11:20:05 AMI think I like the glasspacks.  Simple and easy.  Maybe Ill split my 5" to dual 3.5s side by side.  Would sound nice and plenty of airflow.  60 bucks a piece for one.

Now if I can just find a 5" to dual 3.5" pipe.

-Sean

Why not look into 5" diesel "performance" mufflers? Like these:

http://flowmonster.com/i-6682698-fm2774-flowmonster-stainless-muffler-diesel-trucks-5-center-center.html

I find "consumer" diesel exhaust to be much cheaper than pro stuff like Donaldson, and work well enough for most of our applications.

Oonrahnjay

Quote from: RoyJ on February 15, 2016, 04:01:38 PM
Why not look into 5" diesel "performance" mufflers? Like these:

http://flowmonster.com/i-6682698-fm2774-flowmonster-stainless-muffler-diesel-trucks-5-center-center.html

I find "consumer" diesel exhaust to be much cheaper than pro stuff like Donaldson, and work well enough for most of our applications.

    I like that -- I was also thinking (for Sean's application) that if I were going to do a Y connector, I'd look at going bigger than 3 1/2 inch on each branch.  There is a 4" muffler (about $100 each) right on that same page.
Bruce H; Wallace (near Wilmington) NC
1976 Daimler (British) Double-Decker Bus; 34' long

(New Email -- brucebearnc@ (theGoogle gmail place) .com)

Seangie

Quote from: RoyJ on February 15, 2016, 04:01:38 PM
Why not look into 5" diesel "performance" mufflers? Like these:

http://flowmonster.com/i-6682698-fm2774-flowmonster-stainless-muffler-diesel-trucks-5-center-center.html

I find "consumer" diesel exhaust to be much cheaper than pro stuff like Donaldson, and work well enough for most of our applications.

Roy - Thanks!  I could not find a 5" glasspack.  Thats exactly what I need. I'll do dually exhaust on the next bus.

-Sean
'Cause you know we,
we live in a van (Eagle 10 Suburban)
Driving through the night
To that old promised land'

ArtGill

I had to replace the muffler on my NJT Model 20.  My truck parts dealer has a source for semi custom mufflers for about $350.00.  By the way, I think they built the bus around the muffler.  Art
Art & Cheryll Gill
Morehead City, NC
1989 Eagle Model 20 NJT, 6v92ta

luvrbus

Sean check the Aero I have used those before a good product
Life is short drink the good wine first

Seangie

'Cause you know we,
we live in a van (Eagle 10 Suburban)
Driving through the night
To that old promised land'