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Coolant level just a little low

Started by Scott Crosby, January 28, 2016, 12:03:34 AM

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Scott Crosby

Maybe my next Texas trip Scott..... I just looked at that on a map and I didn't know part of Texas was damn near in Central America :) but I'd come.  I love wrenching on buses. It's therapeutic for me.  And I get an excuse to travel in my bus.   
61 GM Fishbowl TDH 4516 102" 35'
1947 GM PD 3751
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Scott & Heather

Lol. We will only be here for another month or so. We are headed up north after that. this summer I might swing by you in Indian


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1984 MCI 9 6V92-turbo with 9 inch roof raise (SOLD)
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Scott & Heather

Indiana


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1984 MCI 9 6V92-turbo with 9 inch roof raise (SOLD)
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Scott Crosby

Well it spewed out a lot of coolant today when it got hot about 200 miles into the trip while climbing a hill.   After column it took 2.5 gallons   

I asked them how hot it got.   Answer "only 220-230".   Ahhhhh only???


I guess because the gauge goes to like 275 that's why I got an only.

How fast were you going. ?? Idk we don't have a speedometer. So my guess 75-80 keeping up with other traffic.

8v71 v730 pretty heavy I do t know the weight but also pulling a toad


What we can do now is educate the driver a little more about 180 normal operation temp with occasional 190 to even 200 for short periods.  How to climb grades slowed in lower gear.

Use temperature to regulate speed.   I can upgrade her fan to an 8 blade I have.  We can switch to transynd in the v730 that will help a couple degrees.  I can inspect and rod out the radiator I bet it's partially blocked up.  But these conditions the bus has been getting drivin in for a long period of time it's a miracle it's not toast.     I can also make s Better shroud around the fan and seal it a little better. Misters can be added and the rear flap under the bumper has to go and add one aft of the wheels.
61 GM Fishbowl TDH 4516 102" 35'
1947 GM PD 3751
www.busgreasemonkey.com

luvrbus

Scott, if the video you posted of the smoking DD belongs to that bus it is toasted just not well done yet  ??? it would probably be a safe bet saying she cracked a head
Life is short drink the good wine first

Scott Crosby

This one came back to life today.... One stuck injector fixed and then primed and it started right up.    One side smokes more than the other but after a little time on it I'll see what it does.

It's pretty bad @$#. 12v71T straight piped :) mc6

https://youtu.be/wxQqK9xtGuw
61 GM Fishbowl TDH 4516 102" 35'
1947 GM PD 3751
www.busgreasemonkey.com

Scott Crosby

The 12v bus owner Carl was so funny.  When it first started I just touched the throttle up a hair and he was ready to run for the hills. V
61 GM Fishbowl TDH 4516 102" 35'
1947 GM PD 3751
www.busgreasemonkey.com

luvrbus

I knew the previous owner of that bus he worked for a John Deere dealer in Yukon Ok
Life is short drink the good wine first

Scott Crosby

It's still in OK he got it at the estate sale for crazy cheap price.
61 GM Fishbowl TDH 4516 102" 35'
1947 GM PD 3751
www.busgreasemonkey.com

Scott & Heather

That is sweet! Just made my two stroke heart skip a beat. Who was blipping the throttle? You were just standing there and he walked away, so who was revving it and who shut it down?


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Brassman

Sounds like a compression gas leak into the jacket water form my experience.

Oonrahnjay

Quote from: Brassman on February 01, 2016, 06:41:51 PMSounds like a compression gas leak into the jacket water form my experience.

      Caused by a crack in a head gasket from a cracked head that was overheated, or maybe a direct leak through the crack in the head itself (or maybe not that the head is cracked but warped from overneatng ... not that it matters, really.)
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Scott Crosby

Scott, I'm the one in the blue coveralls.  Carl the owner hits the starter and that's about it. I was on the governor controls.  I just wanted to get it running and hear it for a few seconds on that initial start up and make sure it would run.  Tomorrow we'll actually later today we will really get it going and create hopefully some totally awesome video.  It also has a coolant leak but it's from a giant hose that goes to the radiator so until I got the cooling system full I didn't want to run it.  Plus we only had one gallon of fuel in our can, and after we primed everything and ran it for those few seconds we didn't have much left to play with :) but.... We will have some fuel today and I plan on warming this baby up and creating some super loud videos.  Get ready to,turn the volume up to 11
61 GM Fishbowl TDH 4516 102" 35'
1947 GM PD 3751
www.busgreasemonkey.com

Scott Crosby

As for the 4106 It is still running but it clearly has some serious issues.  The excessive white smoke at startup is the clear sign.  She's planning on taking it to California and has a schedule to keep for her tour.  She is getting a new bus soon but had planned on it in a couple months after this tour.  She did a Kickstarter campaign and raised 150k for a new bus for her tour.  It's a shame that new engine got destroyed.  I worked on her bus once before but it was a structural body issue and I heard it run then over thanks giving when she moved it and I was shocked how it ran then.  It was 30 deg that day I hopped it was just the cold that made it smoke and hard starting but when I arrived in Texas and saw it do it at 60 deg I was like uh ohh.... That low on coolant I was shocked it still ran. It's still got power but there is no way the heads are not damaged.  There is no coolant in the oil and that the only good thing that might hold it together long enough to make it for her last ten or so cities.  Detroits are tough so it might make it while it's wounded but it's going to have some serious hills headed to CA and I anticipate it being maybe a 50-70% chance of success if she baby's it but it all depends on how she tries to climb the hills with it.  I've not seen or heard it run since the latest 230 but now that I got a running temperature out of her I have a lot more info.  I asked several times how hot did it get. The only answer was oh it never got hot.  No it never over heated, no it never overheats, no it's not hot.   I'm guessing now the answer was just because the gauge never pegged out, a light never came on the dash that said "warning hot" or a steaming guiser like in a old move never shot out of the hood of the bus (which there is no hood and the radiator is in the back), but that's what means it never got hot.  She is super a nice lady but knows very little about mechanical things on a bus or how to drive them differently than a car.  One would have assumed after killing one engine and paying big money for another that would be a lesson learned but I guess not. She needs a full time driver for her show.   I really like her and want to help so the next few months are going to be a challenge for that bus.
61 GM Fishbowl TDH 4516 102" 35'
1947 GM PD 3751
www.busgreasemonkey.com

Scott Crosby

Guess what.. The bus is doa and won't start.  I did think it would go further but I guess not.
61 GM Fishbowl TDH 4516 102" 35'
1947 GM PD 3751
www.busgreasemonkey.com