Next brilliant idea??? Hydraulic ram bumpstops?

[luvrbus]

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I'm getting too lazy to bother with leveling blocks - pushing a switch is more my style.  
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Then HWH and Bigfoot are for you I had HWH 4 point hydraulic levelers on 2 different buses a Eagle and a air bag Prevost they were never a problem on either

I have a 3 point hydraulic system on the MH and don't really care for it they seem not to be as stable as the 4 point system YMMD  

[Scott & Heather]

This conversation is appropriate for us right now. 4,000 mile trip over the next couple of months with lots of short stops...a huge pain to get the bus level. Currently in Orlando and sloped so bad the shower water never completely drains out of the pan. :-/

[Oonrahnjay]

If you size the cylinders & fluid pressure correctly, they will have the same power as the air bags.

I like the adjustable bump stop idea. Sounds like it will be firmer than the air bags, with only the tires touching the ground.
I'm getting too lazy to bother with leveling blocks - pushing a switch is more my style. 

     I'm a big believer in everybody doing it their way (unless their way is downright dangerous), but my way will be a few $$$ for three gauges and valves rather than hundreds of $$$ for cylinders, pumps, cutting holes in the floor, etc.  Maybe the hydraulic is good for you; if that's the case, you'll get no argument from me.

[luvrbus]

Leveling system are like anything it's personal preference,I always liked my hydraulic systems makes it so easy to service the unit.  

The part I don't understand everyone says how strong a bus is and the hydraulic levelers will twist it. Then you have the weak not well built S&S people say here, and about 90% come with hydraulic levelers even the 5th wheels both 3 and 4 point.

Owning both the air and hydraulic leveling systems I'll stick with the hydraulic system you level it one time and forget about it for months no need for a auxiliary compressor waking you up at 2 am JMO

Has anyone ever thought about how a Eagle,Dina,Flx ran for years on the hiways without a 3 point leveling system to adjust it from side to side or front to rear ? 

PS Bruce there is no need for holes in the floor with a hydraulic system

[uncle ned]

Huggy has both  a level it air system to level and 4 hydraulic jacks to stabilize it when level.

Also able to pick up one wheel to change a tire when needed on the side of I85 late on a Saturday night.

Has not broke or twisted it yet in over 16 years.

uncle ned

[Darkspeed]

Huggy has both  a level it air system to level and 4 hydraulic jacks to stabilize it when level.

Also able to pick up one wheel to change a tire when needed on the side of I85 late on a Saturday night.

Has not broke or twisted it yet in over 16 years.

uncle ned

uncle ned, I still want to see photos of how you have the hydraulics mounted 

[TomC]

If you want to know how the bus will bounce with the hydraulic bump stops, deflate the air bags down to the stops then walk around in the bus. You'll find the bus bouncing at a surprisingly fast vibration. Personally, don't like that. Consider using standard hydraulic levelers that go to the ground. Then you'll be firmly attached to the ground with less walking vibration and wind pushing you around when parked. Good Luck, TomC

[Oonrahnjay]

..  PS Bruce there is no need for holes in the floor with a hydraulic system   

     Yeah, I know that for a conventional hydraulic system.  Earlier in the thread, they were talking about putting the struts to push on the bump stops -- and that might inply having the struts stick up through the floor -- that's what I was talking about.  I like the regular hydraulic levelers a lot -- it's the $$$'s that scares me.

[kyle4501]

If you want to know how the bus will bounce with the hydraulic bump stops, deflate the air bags down to the stops then walk around in the bus. You'll find the bus bouncing at a surprisingly fast vibration. Personally, don't like that. Consider using standard hydraulic levelers that go to the ground. Then you'll be firmly attached to the ground with less walking vibration and wind pushing you around when parked. Good Luck, TomC

Mine doesn't & it uses the airbags & switches to level it.

All systems have 'issues'. I have seen where the hydraulic levelers sank into the ground - not an easy thing to dig out.
The adjustable bump stops and/or airbag leveling, won't add anything extra contacting the ground.
However, hard to argue with the ease of jacking the coach up to take a wheel off. 
Hopefully, I'll be able to add some hydraulics to mine before I have to change tires. 

[luvrbus]

Mine doesn't & it uses the airbags & switches to level it.

All systems have 'issues'. I have seen where the hydraulic levelers sank into the ground - not an easy thing to dig out.
The adjustable bump stops and/or airbag leveling, won't add anything extra contacting the ground.
However, hard to argue with the ease of jacking the coach up to take a wheel off. 
Hopefully, I'll be able to add some hydraulics to mine before I have to change tires. 

Burying a leveler in the ground is a owners issue I wouldn't blame that on the jacks JMO

[Darkspeed]

If you bury a hydraulic leveler , weld a bigger diameter disc on the bottom.

[kyle4501]

Burying a leveler in the ground is a owners issue I wouldn't blame that on the jacks JMO

Wasn't blaming it on the jack, just stating a possibility. Kinda hard to know if it is sinking if you can't see it. Also, if it is a slow sinking over night . . . .

If you bury a hydraulic leveler , weld a bigger diameter disc on the bottom.

That works if there is room for the bigger disc.

[luvrbus]

The bigger pad is why I always used the HWH,the BigFoot has a small pad, then the springs can be a PITA on HWH if you don't keep it adjusted.The power up and down on the BigFoot are nice but they can be a problem also.I never cared much for the computerized controls on either I changed mine back to 4 levers manual controls