Fatal Accident
 

Fatal Accident

Started by Tikvah, October 21, 2015, 12:19:09 PM

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Tikvah

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muldoonman

Sad. Keep an eye on those tires. Over 5 years old and move um to the back.

Darkspeed

That is sad.. I see stuff like this and wonder if a steering damper could have saved a life. I had a safe-t-plus in my big dodge and I did not know I had lost a wheel until it went flying past the drivers window and shot down the highway.
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bigred

It was not even that large of a tree!! Kind of makes you ask yourself,"D
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Jeremy

There was yet another top-ripped-off-a-double-decker incident here a couple of weeks ago, but this time it wasn't a bridge that did it, just the branch of a tree. Trees are tough!

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uncle ned


Had a tree blow across I85 just north of the Georgia line.
It hit Huggy in the front bumper and launched her.
Blew the right front tire but just ran straight and true to a smooth stop.

One of South Carolina's finest came by later and asked if we need him to call help.
He also said that was a hell of a mess back where we hit the tree.

Good SAM to the rescue.

I am a firm believer that if we had been in a s&s we would have lost a front axle and other things.


Uncle ned

by the way goodyear 11r24.5 tire cost 874 dollars at 11 oclock on a cold windy saturday night
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kyle4501

Quote from: uncle ned on October 21, 2015, 05:00:21 PM

by the way goodyear 11r24.5 tire cost 874 dollars at 11 oclock on a cold windy saturday night

I'll bet you were glad it was available !

I know that I'm glad you guys weren't hurt  :)
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oltrunt

Seems I've spent a life time viewing this sort of thing--that I'm inured, and then I see something like this and I still mutter oh my God,---- can't we do better?  Jack

Scott & Heather

I did a concert recently in stephenville. This is so sad. We are about an hour from there. Glad I just replaced my steer tire.


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Oonrahnjay

Quote from: bigred on October 21, 2015, 02:46:37 PMIt was not even that large of a tree!! Kind of makes you ask yourself,"D 

   I think it IS that large of a tree.  It must be a good 14" 2' above the ground - that's very solid.  Whatever, it's a sad accident.
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kyle4501

This is my biggest fear, a blowout taking directional control away from me.

Since I like to understand the cause/effect -
I would really like to know the timeline details from the blowout to impact. Were brakes applied? Was the driver distracted? Was the road shoulder soft? etc. . .

Would also like to know the history of the tire that failed - Age?, inflation vs. loading?, was it ever flat?, was it ever patched or plugged? etc . . . .
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luvrbus

Only time I ever had a front tire blowout on the bus the tire was always new happen to me twice in the last 10 years.

That is sad indeed if a front tire blows most people hit the brakes it's human nature and then you lose control let the vehicle stop under it own power and you will be fine and can control it
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Iceni John

How well do steering dampers work on buses like ours to help retain control after a blowout?

I remember watching that video that explains what to do if a front tire blows out  -  it says that immediately slamming on the brakes is the worst thing to do, and instead one should apply power and then let off power and gradually brake to a stop.   In the heat of the moment I don't know if one would be able to remember that.

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Darkspeed

Quote from: Iceni John on October 21, 2015, 07:41:12 PM
How well do steering dampers work on buses like ours to help retain control after a blowout?

I remember watching that video that explains what to do if a front tire blows out  -  it says that immediately slamming on the brakes is the worst thing to do, and instead one should apply power and then let off power and gradually brake to a stop.   In the heat of the moment I don't know if one would be able to remember that.

John

After a lot of research and owning one on my dodge I am installing a Safe-T-Steer 230 and a Trim unit on my 4106. The big benefit I had on my big Dodge besides blow out safety was after installing it I did not drift at all when big trucks passed me on the expressway. It was like riding on rails..

http://www.safe-t-plus.com/our-products/model-41-230/

http://www.supersteerparts.com/products/supersteer-trim-unit-safe-t-plus
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DKO

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